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America's biggest new reading trend: obsessed with multitasking via audio books

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Re: America's biggest new reading trend: obsessed with multitasking via audio books

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I've been an Audible subscriber for a few years and I listen to most audio books at between 2 and 2.25x speed. The Android app alows you to adjust it right up to 3x and in general it's still perfectly comprehendable at the individual word level even at that speed.

you have to be careful how you structure your sentences, or at least I should pay more attention. There is no way triple speed was comfortably understandable. 2 to 2.25 would be a lot already. 3x is probably a ludicrous maximum that no user should could complain about.

> 3x is probably a ludicrous maximum that no user should could complain about.

Blind people tend to listen to things on fast speed because they've had more practice. I can imagine blind people listening at that kind of speed.

https://rdouglasfields.wordpress.com/2010/12/14/extraordinar...

> New research presented at the Society for Neuroscience meeting in San Diego shows that blind people can understand speech at ultrafast rates, well beyond what a sighted person can comprehend.

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It's not the "listening to audio" bit that's worrying, it's the "task is one you can perform automatically (e.g. highway driving)" which is scary.

Don't you ever drive somewhere and realize you have no idea memory of doing several of the steps involved in driving? I've been driving ~15 years, and can certainly say that at this point my daily vehicle operations are not all performed with full focus. I still check for traffic, and drive safely, but it is more automatic than just about anything else I do. Substitute in "riding a bike" for driving, and I bet you do…

No, I'm aware I'm driving a machine that is a major cause of death in every country it's operated in and I concentrate on what I'm doing.

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It's not the "listening to audio" bit that's worrying, it's the "task is one you can perform automatically (e.g. highway driving)" which is scary.

Unless you're an unskilled driver, driving becomes "automatic" in much the same way that riding a bike does. When you ride a bike, are you concentrating on not falling over? Maybe for the first week or so that you're learning...

Concentrating on not falling over is very different from concentrating on the road.

Also, every stupid cunt thinks they're a skilled driver, but most people suck at driving.

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I think multi-tasking with an audiobook only works when the other task is one you can perform automatically (e.g. highway driving). If you're doing anything that requires any thought or decision making, then you might as well not bother with the book. Also, I think the kind of audiobook is important: 1. Fiction usually works best, since narratives and action are easy to follow. 2. Simple non-fiction is worse but stil…

I agree low-attention multitasking is what works. Standing on the bus, running, kneading dough, ok. Listening to a book and trying to code, no chance. I disagree on what kind work best, for me "divulgation-level" non-fiction is the one. Think Malcolm Gladwell. Actual fiction can be complex because it requires attention on who is talking, where they are, whether you're in a time skip or flashbacks etc. Divulgation doe…

I found Malcolm Gladwell amazing to listen to while running: motivating, exciting and interesting.

Re: America's biggest new reading trend: obsessed with multitasking via audio books

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Unless you're an unskilled driver, driving becomes "automatic" in much the same way that riding a bike does. When you ride a bike, are you concentrating on not falling over? Maybe for the first week or so that you're learning...

Concentrating on not falling over is very different from concentrating on the road. Also, every stupid cunt thinks they're a skilled driver, but most people suck at driving.

Wow, incredibly rude. What ever happened to HN civility?

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I agree. I can listen to podcasts or audiobooks while doing dishes, but that's about the limit.

I wonder if that is because if you miss a part of the narrative, you can usually make out what is going on. It is rare when an author doesn't hang a lantern on an important plot device.

I do more complex things but then I just go back 30 seconds or more if I have lost the plot.

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Concentrating on not falling over is very different from concentrating on the road. Also, every stupid cunt thinks they're a skilled driver, but most people suck at driving.

Wow, incredibly rude. What ever happened to HN civility?

It got run over by some idiot not paying attention to the road.

I'm assuming this happened to a family member/friend/acquaintance of his.

Re: America's biggest new reading trend: obsessed with multitasking via audio books

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I've been an Audible subscriber for a few years and I listen to most audio books at between 2 and 2.25x speed. The Android app alows you to adjust it right up to 3x and in general it's still perfectly comprehendable at the individual word level even at that speed.

you have to be careful how you structure your sentences, or at least I should pay more attention. There is no way triple speed was comfortably understandable. 2 to 2.25 would be a lot already. 3x is probably a ludicrous maximum that no user should could complain about.

I'll agree that 3x to my ear sounds insane, but so did 2x a few years ago. I've definitely adapted to listening at higher speeds as I've got used to it. I can believe that some people are comfortable with it.

But you're right, sentence structure does play a part. I've listened to Treasure Island (Robert Louis Stevenson) and Excession (Iain M Banks) recently and both I had to drop to 2x because I couldn't follow at 2.25x. The latter because of the long ship names that sounded like sentences took too long for my brain to parse out and comprehended, and the quite technical language. The former because of the slightly old fashioned and uncommon language. On the other hand, with another recent book, Under The Skin (Michel Faber), I was totally comfortable at 2.25x. The narrator was nice and clear with no strong accent, and the language was modern and descriptive but not overly complex.

Re: America's biggest new reading trend: obsessed with multitasking via audio books

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I started listening to audiobooks as an alternative to reading. With work and other activities it began too hard to commit to a book. I would start but never have the time to progress. Now I just take my headphone with me and listen as I travel from place to place. I take the metro 45 mins each way during the week. I'm so glad that time is spent with a book as oppose to just listening to music.

Re: America's biggest new reading trend: obsessed with multitasking via audio books

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For me its simply convenience and atteniton:

- audio so I can still change trains or do the dishes. Mostly pocket + ivona text to speech on my phone (takes a little effort to find an apk, the app was kinda unpublished at some point).

- a bit more than double the speed to match my reading/thinking speed. Otherwise I tend to drift of in thoughts and have to rewind. If I hear a lecture and play a computer game I stick to normal speed.

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