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The House just voted to wipe out the FCC’s landmark Internet privacy protections

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Re: The House just voted to wipe out the FCC’s landmark Internet privacy protections

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post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That would piss off all big businesses that have remote workers that have to VPN to their networks.

Business level service would permit and not throttle VPN. For consumer products, it will (probably) be an add-on. Whether they block or throttle or do both, is a market opportunity each ISP will decide.

Curious: if you're an ISP, how do you tell the difference between me VPNing into my Big Tech, Inc. and me VPNing into Private VPN, Inc?

Re: The House just voted to wipe out the FCC’s landmark Internet privacy protections

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It's a bit disappointing to see that aside from a few abstained votes, everybody just chose to vote along party lines. Do these people just rubber stamp a bill because there's a D or an R next to it? Even if it meant more nay votes for the bill, I really wish we had representatives that vote based on critical thought rather than what their friends were doing. I mean, as long as I'm dreaming too, we should give assemb…

Turns out echo chambers aren't just for internet recluses.

Who knew.

Re: The House just voted to wipe out the FCC’s landmark Internet privacy protections

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post #83

Maybe someone at YC could reach out to Thiel who could convince Trump to veto? Something like that is probably the only realistic chance of this failing, and I have no idea how much Thiel personally cares about this issue anyway.

> Maybe someone at YC could reach out to Thiel who could convince Trump to veto?

What makes you think the guy who describes his preferred business model as being to establish a monopoly would do that?

Re: The House just voted to wipe out the FCC’s landmark Internet privacy protections

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post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Although this is mostly true, it's not entirely true (at least in the house).

https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_...

No, he's correct, about 7% of republicans in the house didn't vote for the bill.

Re: The House just voted to wipe out the FCC’s landmark Internet privacy protections

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post #19

This, right here, is the consequence of the withdrawal from politics many geeks advocated very strongly in an earlier time. "Everything is corrupt, it doesn't matter"... turns out to only be a viable philosophy when things mostly work well enough . What we have in protections and freedoms were purchased through a ton of hard work by prior generations: the liberty to slack and think that it just works ok is a nice sid…

Republicans be all up in your ass...and vagina too.

Re: The House just voted to wipe out the FCC’s landmark Internet privacy protections

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post #30

It's a bit disappointing to see that aside from a few abstained votes, everybody just chose to vote along party lines. Do these people just rubber stamp a bill because there's a D or an R next to it? Even if it meant more nay votes for the bill, I really wish we had representatives that vote based on critical thought rather than what their friends were doing. I mean, as long as I'm dreaming too, we should give assemb…

I don't know that much about the inner workings of Congress, but I'm guessing that it might be because reps who vote against party lines won't get support for their own pet projects later on?

It's also easy to run an attack ad saying "Rep. X voted to keep job-killing Obama regulations" without saying exactly what the regulation was so the potential voter never questions whether they might have wanted it in place.

That, and the Congressional GOP used up their political mana points on the failed Obamacare repeal.

Re: The House just voted to wipe out the FCC’s landmark Internet privacy protections

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post #57

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/115-2017/h202 215 yea, 205 nea. All yeas were Republicans.

>> ISP companies also contended that the FCC rules have placed them at a disadvantage with other non-ISP Internet companies that also collect user data, like Netflix or Facebook.

I think there is always a flip side and I think this is it. Why can facebook take my data and sell it but for the ISP, my data is treated like a health record? Personally, I don' think anyone should be able to sell my data.

Re: The House just voted to wipe out the FCC’s landmark Internet privacy protections

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The votes in both the house and the senate were almost entirely along party lines. Every republican in the senate that voted, voted for this act and every democrat in the senate that voted, voted against this act.

Although this is mostly true, it's not entirely true (at least in the house).

You're correct and I edited my comment. I suspect that that may just be a tactic to save face in vulnerable districts rather than a sincere desire to oppose the bill.

Re: The House just voted to wipe out the FCC’s landmark Internet privacy protections

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post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Although this is mostly true, it's not entirely true (at least in the house).

https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_...

15 House Republicans voted against it:

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2017/roll202.xml

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