The unclear thing here is: what is going to happen to hangouts on personal accounts? I use google hangouts on my gmail account for group hangouts all the time (role-playing game group that's geographically distributed, for example). I mean, I'll use hangouts meet or whatever instead of vidchat hangouts, but only if it exists.
Google Splits Hangouts into Chat and Meet
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#92Poe's Law as applied to enterprise messaging platforms. Dear Google, Please make one amazing chat app. Just one. Merge Allo, Duo, Chat, Hangouts, Meet, Messenger, Voice, and your RCS platform into one extensible platform with third party integrations. The comments in this thread? They are not flattering. It is not a sign of joy that people comment on Google releasing a new chat app, or confusing your branding even fu…
>> Please make one amazing chat app. Just one. Merge Allo, Duo, Chat, Hangouts, Meet, Messenger, Voice, and your RCS platform into one extensible platform with third party integrations.
But then how will their under utilized engineers get a promotion?
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#93Meet Google's suite of messaging apps: Alphabet.
You can only communicate using the letter matching the app you're using.
Re: Google Splits Hangouts into Chat and Meet
#94Poe's Law as applied to enterprise messaging platforms. Dear Google, Please make one amazing chat app. Just one. Merge Allo, Duo, Chat, Hangouts, Meet, Messenger, Voice, and your RCS platform into one extensible platform with third party integrations. The comments in this thread? They are not flattering. It is not a sign of joy that people comment on Google releasing a new chat app, or confusing your branding even fu…
Why stop there? Gmail is communications as well, so include email too. And snail mail too, so add Fedex/UPS service into it. And fax, we can't forget about fax.
But hey, connectivity is just a section of productivity, and docs, slides, sheets, drive is all productivity, so add it all to the same app, as well as google plus. You also use the app store to get your company's apps, so add the play store as well.
Finding the destination for a business meeting is also productivity, so add maps inside it as well, and translate, since you might be running meetings and emails in different languages, plus keep for note-taking, calendar, my business, contacts, forms, groups, etc.
Congrats, you just designed Lotus Notes.
Or Android.
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#95Earlier quoted context omitted.
Can you elaborate on Hangouts + Project Fi? I'm also on Fi, and want the iMessage type experience, but always seem to fall short of it. Is there something particular about the Hangouts and Fi combo?
I'm not sure if the option is in the Fi app or the Hangouts app, but I allowed Hangouts to manage my SMS on the phone. It behaves as my Google Voice number did before: SMS (as hoped) and phone calls (not so useful in practice) pop up in Gmail as well as on the phone.
This is what I do, and it's reasonable. Annoyingly, I sometimes miss calls as my computer will start ringing 10+ seconds before my phone, so by the time I grab my phone, the incoming call has already been sent to voicemail.
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#96Yes Google's chat strategy is a mess, but this part is great news: > It’s a full rewrite of the Hangouts meeting experience and will work without any plug-ins (and Google also promises that it will be lighter on the processor, too, and won’t eat into your battery life or make your laptop’s fans spin at full speed). The team also cut down on the code size and promises that meetings will load “instantly.” Our team span…
Of course their "rewrite" and fix currently means that it only works on Chrome and not other browsers.
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#98Google Cloud Next '17... introducing products that will go live in '18 and be shuttered in '20. Our company is evaluating team collaboration products right now. I told them not to even look at hangouts because you couldn't trust Google to keep a product alive. This was two days ago...
If you are still looking at this, we use the following solutions at work:
- https://meet.jit.si as a hangout replacement (seems like a polished hangout alternative)
- https://about.mattermost.com/ as a on-premise slack / hipchat / irc alternative
(not affiliated with any of those products)
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#99Earlier quoted context omitted.
Monolithic apps suffer from design for the least common denominator. Business team chat and calling/texting your friend are entirely different problems and deserve different solutions.
But Google doesn't segment their chat products based on target market, they segment it based on business unit. Google is just really unafraid of competing with Google in the marketplace, apparently.
Target market: enterprise
* Video-conferencing & meeting: Hangouts Meet
* Direct messaging & team communication: Hangouts Chat
Target market: consumer
* Video & audio calling: Duo
* Text messaging: Allo
You could even put it in a 2x2, doesn't get any more clear than this.
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#100Oh yay, more chat apps from Google. I had finally hit a nice point of integration: using Hangouts with Project Fi means I got somewhat close to the iMessage experience (at least as far as being able to send/receive SMS from my computer). Clearly the integration wasn't great, and the Hangouts app is badly in need of work, but it's a shame to see that even that limited functionality is going away in favor of more fragm…
The new Google Voice app is a relatively good experience, unified across web/mobile platforms.
Except Google Fi, where you can't use Google Voice. FFS Google.