A lot of the posts here seem to be missing something important: permanganate is an EXTREMELY vividly colored ion in solution. The bright colors of the water in the pictures is about in line with what a 20 ppm permanganate solution looks like. Considering manganese is an essential trace mineral (although it is neurotoxic above a certain point, the amounts in the water are minimal), I doubt there is any real toxic effe…
'Very, very pink' tap water in Alberta town
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#92A lot of the posts here seem to be missing something important: permanganate is an EXTREMELY vividly colored ion in solution. The bright colors of the water in the pictures is about in line with what a 20 ppm permanganate solution looks like. Considering manganese is an essential trace mineral (although it is neurotoxic above a certain point, the amounts in the water are minimal), I doubt there is any real toxic effe…
There is probably not "any real toxic effect" with a small dose taken over a few months in an isolated study. But what about a small dose taken over years, and interacting with the thousands of small doses of synthetic chemicals we have in our body because of processed food, hygiene products, clothes, surface treatments and medicine ? This we have no way to know. There are already so many reasons to get in contact wi…
>There are already so many reasons to get in contact with synthetic chemicals.
Such a pointless distinction. There are many chemicals that occur naturally and will kill you.
Re: 'Very, very pink' tap water in Alberta town
#93"She said the water is clear coming out of her cold water taps, but not the hot water taps."
Do people really not know where their hot water comes from?
Re: 'Very, very pink' tap water in Alberta town
#94A lot of the posts here seem to be missing something important: permanganate is an EXTREMELY vividly colored ion in solution. The bright colors of the water in the pictures is about in line with what a 20 ppm permanganate solution looks like. Considering manganese is an essential trace mineral (although it is neurotoxic above a certain point, the amounts in the water are minimal), I doubt there is any real toxic effe…
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#95Earlier quoted context omitted.
There is probably not "any real toxic effect" with a small dose taken over a few months in an isolated study. But what about a small dose taken over years, and interacting with the thousands of small doses of synthetic chemicals we have in our body because of processed food, hygiene products, clothes, surface treatments and medicine ? This we have no way to know. There are already so many reasons to get in contact wi…
>There are already so many reasons to get in contact with synthetic chemicals. Such a pointless distinction. There are many chemicals that occur naturally and will kill you.
Anything can kill you. You can kill somebody with a piece of wood, a nuclear device, gaz, light, shock waves, a baby, a golden coin...
And any matter is a chemical. Using "synthetic" as a qualifier allow me to distinguish "fructose" from "paracetamol". You will less likely see important traces of cobra venom in the water.
It's not perfect, but I fail to find a better term.
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#96Earlier quoted context omitted.
There is probably not "any real toxic effect" with a small dose taken over a few months in an isolated study. But what about a small dose taken over years, and interacting with the thousands of small doses of synthetic chemicals we have in our body because of processed food, hygiene products, clothes, surface treatments and medicine ? This we have no way to know. There are already so many reasons to get in contact wi…
They didn't add it to the water on purpose.
I get that but I find strange that in 2017 in modern countries water quality should still be a debate. It should be in the "problem solved" category.
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#97Earlier quoted context omitted.
Brita filter for the win. We do too, and then we boil it, then use it for tea/coffee and cooking. For cold drinks; bottled water. We go through a ton of it. The joys of living in London (UK) and it's crappy water :(
I'm up in Yorkshire, our water is so hard it beats up the kettle, pipes, taps and washing machines on the way through.
Water softeners are pretty cheap these days, although the water still tastes funny afterward.
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#98Earlier quoted context omitted.
>>The commenter is explaining that potassium permanganate is harmless and usually used as a water purifier anyway. Harmless at what level? Because even the most harmless chemical substance will become harmful at high enough doses.
Yup. I heard this di-Hydrogen Oxide can be fatal in very high ingestion cases.
I don't know why you are down voted. Your comment is the very first thing that went through my mind when I read the article.
Next time, you might want to use Di-hydrogen monoxide, it's a much scarier name. Everybody knows monoxide is dangerous on anything.
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#99A lot of the posts here seem to be missing something important: permanganate is an EXTREMELY vividly colored ion in solution. The bright colors of the water in the pictures is about in line with what a 20 ppm permanganate solution looks like. Considering manganese is an essential trace mineral (although it is neurotoxic above a certain point, the amounts in the water are minimal), I doubt there is any real toxic effe…
There is probably not "any real toxic effect" with a small dose taken over a few months in an isolated study. But what about a small dose taken over years, and interacting with the thousands of small doses of synthetic chemicals we have in our body because of processed food, hygiene products, clothes, surface treatments and medicine ? This we have no way to know. There are already so many reasons to get in contact wi…
>The town drained its water reservoir and all lines have been flushed, but there may be some residual colour in some systems, the mayor said, adding property owners may need to run their water for a few minutes to clear their service lines.
Why are you worrying about cumulative doses over years, when this problem literally existed for minutes?
Re: 'Very, very pink' tap water in Alberta town
#100A lot of the posts here seem to be missing something important: permanganate is an EXTREMELY vividly colored ion in solution. The bright colors of the water in the pictures is about in line with what a 20 ppm permanganate solution looks like. Considering manganese is an essential trace mineral (although it is neurotoxic above a certain point, the amounts in the water are minimal), I doubt there is any real toxic effe…
There is probably not "any real toxic effect" with a small dose taken over a few months in an isolated study. But what about a small dose taken over years, and interacting with the thousands of small doses of synthetic chemicals we have in our body because of processed food, hygiene products, clothes, surface treatments and medicine ? This we have no way to know. There are already so many reasons to get in contact wi…
> This we have no way to know.
We do have a way to know. It's called chemistry, and one of the primary goals of chemistry is to be able to predict what sort of reactions will occur in a mixture of molecules. Anyone who takes organic chemistry should be able to tell you how alkenes, alkynes, aldehydes, ketones, ketals, alcohols, aromatics, amines, amides, peroxides, ethers, esters, etc. are likely to react in various conditions, and hopefully what factors promote or retard such reactions.