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Cloud Hosting Showdown: DO vs. Linode vs. Vultr vs. OVH vs. Scaleway

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Re: Cloud Hosting Showdown: DO vs. Linode vs. Vultr vs. OVH vs. Scaleway

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Post by tallanvor »

nik736 wrote: post #30
XERQ wrote: post #27

I'm the founder of SSD Nodes, Inc., which is a bootstrapped SSD-based hosting provider for startups that I've been working on since 2011. Some of our clients have posted benchmarks showing great performance, such as 800MB/s+ throughput and 292K IOPS: https://lowendbox.com/blog/ssdnodes-high-ram-ssd-vps-startin... Direct link to the benchmark: https://serverscope.io/trials/lrAw Special pricing for startups: https://ww…

If I would be able to downvote you, I would. My benchmark/review is about hourly billing providers where I am able to spin up a server within a minute, which is not the case for your company. You are simply one of the 10000 companies that offer regular Virtual Private Servers.

If your review is supposed to be about hourly billing providers, shouldn't you actually mention that in the review? Because you didn't say a single thing about that in the review. Neither did you say in your review that it was about being able to spin up a server within a minute.

As it is, your original response comes off as more than slightly rude, and your subsequent response was very rude.

Re: Cloud Hosting Showdown: DO vs. Linode vs. Vultr vs. OVH vs. Scaleway

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Post by laumars »

matunixe wrote: post #89
cknight wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

By "changed everything to sell x64 VPS" I guess you mean "Added VPS offerings alongside their bare metal ARM servers"? I have snapshots of my Scaleway servers sitting there right now. I've also never experienced any downtime (6 months and counting). I'm not saying anecdotes are completely without merit, but they don't pair well with rhetoric.

Their business plan was using the revolutionary ARM CPUs to make cheap offers with real hardware. That was clear, that's what they sold us in the beginning. Know they are stuck with it because of their lack of knowledge: the C1 server doesn't even support IPV6! Stop kidding about "snapshots". They don't offer snapshots at all. Period. You should shutdown your server through the fucking dashboard before you can click…

I've not used Scaleway but for what it's worth Digital Ocean's snapshot feature only works offline too (and takes forever to run). I'd also made the same complaints as yourself that an offline "snapshot" isn't really what I would class as a "snapshot". A "clone" would be a more apt description.

Anyhow, semantics aside, I seriously wouldn't recommend DO for any serious work. It's fine if you freelance in Wordpress or other off the shelf products but if you have any serious work to do then just don't even waste your time with DO as it's solutions are slow, inflexible and, in my professional opinion, immature when compared to other leading cloud providers.

Re: Cloud Hosting Showdown: DO vs. Linode vs. Vultr vs. OVH vs. Scaleway

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Post by hyperknot »

tombrossman wrote: post #12

After seeing positive Scaleway mentions here on HN several times I opened an account to test performance. Damn it was slow, and I had set my expectations very low. I can understand for a site that didn't need CPU-heavy performance (I intended to use it for a personal Nextcloud instance) but my main issue was with reboot time. Change any settings in the control panel? Reboot needed. Applied kernel updates and need to…

You can choose to use OVH's kernel or factory kernel at install time.

Re: Cloud Hosting Showdown: DO vs. Linode vs. Vultr vs. OVH vs. Scaleway

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Post by wdb »

kureikain wrote: post #71

I have used all of them to cut cost. I run some several personal side project all them and I can say that vultr.com is the best among these provider considering price per computation power. 1. OVH: OVH is great, cheap and very reliable. I have used a $3.49 instances there. The only thing with them is a very complicated control panel to use. But the disk space is kind of expensive to get extra space. 2. DO: DO is the…

I wonder if anyone even tried to get a OVH box. I did and they asked for "proof of address" and my ID. Scaleway, Linode and DO didn't ask for it. OVH would have been interesting, if they didn't had this requirement. In my opinion it's a NO GO because of this.

Re: Cloud Hosting Showdown: DO vs. Linode vs. Vultr vs. OVH vs. Scaleway

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Post by wdb »

developer2 wrote: post #78
kureikain wrote: post #71

I have used all of them to cut cost. I run some several personal side project all them and I can say that vultr.com is the best among these provider considering price per computation power. 1. OVH: OVH is great, cheap and very reliable. I have used a $3.49 instances there. The only thing with them is a very complicated control panel to use. But the disk space is kind of expensive to get extra space. 2. DO: DO is the…

Re #2, anyone who tries to abuse a company for a lousy $5 deserves what they get. It looks to them like a stolen credit card being used fraudulently. For $5, you're not worth 10 minutes of a customer service rep's time trying to determine whether you are a fraud risk.

Clearly, OVH has enough time to do this.

Re: Cloud Hosting Showdown: DO vs. Linode vs. Vultr vs. OVH vs. Scaleway

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Post by sheraz »

matunixe wrote: post #86

Scaleway is shit, I use it since the closed beta (I live in France) and even if they are good to host simple websites with no big trafic their service is very disappointing. First they surfed on the ARM bare metal hype for a while and then changed everything to sell x64 VPS. They lack a lot of features as they don't provide backup system or even snapshots. Their staff think of themselves as fucking gods and do not gi…

I think this is a little unfair.

Anecdotally, I've had a good experience with them. I use them as a playground for ideas or learning things like docker/kubernetes.

I see no reason why a properly architected deployment would have trouble in their environment.

Re: Cloud Hosting Showdown: DO vs. Linode vs. Vultr vs. OVH vs. Scaleway

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Post by tribby »

JensRex wrote: post #90
tribby wrote: post #62

after seeing the announcement about vultr in another thread, I took a closer look at ipv6 support and it looks like DO and scaleway do not provide a proper /64 for IPv6 -- or even a /112, which means you can't use openvpn.

Why do you mean by "proper"? I have a /64 with DO.

did you have to request the /64?

unless it has changed or varies by datacenter, DO issues a /124 by default -- I've confirmed this on my own droplets just now. issuing a /64 is "proper" because it is RFC[1].

1. https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3177

Re: Cloud Hosting Showdown: DO vs. Linode vs. Vultr vs. OVH vs. Scaleway

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Post by untoreh »

XERQ wrote: post #27

I'm the founder of SSD Nodes, Inc., which is a bootstrapped SSD-based hosting provider for startups that I've been working on since 2011. Some of our clients have posted benchmarks showing great performance, such as 800MB/s+ throughput and 292K IOPS: https://lowendbox.com/blog/ssdnodes-high-ram-ssd-vps-startin... Direct link to the benchmark: https://serverscope.io/trials/lrAw Special pricing for startups: https://ww…

do you still not provide private networking? aka intra server connectivity w/o bandwidth costs.

Re: Cloud Hosting Showdown: DO vs. Linode vs. Vultr vs. OVH vs. Scaleway

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Post by peterwwillis »

kuschku wrote: post #68
peterwwillis wrote: post #10

What's the target market for this "showdown" ? Hopefully not an online business, as all of these providers are the cloud hosting equivalent of shared servers from the early 00's. I've used DO and Linode and both have serious reliability problems that you have to engineer around yourself, and I can't imagine the other providers are any more robust. Linode was too pricy for what they provided back when I tried them, to…

> Even if they were more reliable systems than they are now, the bigger they are the more they attract attacks on their core. Only the giants like Amazon and Google, or more professional (read: expensive) providers have the resources to deal with it. You do realize that OVH weathered DDoSes largee than 1100Gbps in the past, without issues? And that, like Scaleway, it belongs to a large french ISP with a nationwide ne…

I'm not familiar with those at all, I can only speak to the two I spoke of.

But it's a bit strange for an ISP to develop its own hardware, and ddos prevention has nothing to do with system management or cloud hosting feature sets. Furthermore, those two are the least mature, slowest, tiniest, and most limited providers in the shootout on every metric except perhaps network performance in France.

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