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Re: Twitter Takes Aim at Anonymous Egg Accounts

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What I don't understand: Why doesn't twitter take moderation seriously? On reddit it's left up to the moderators of each sub. It does very. But having a very "up to interpretation" but yet not politically biased set of rules and enforcement is great.

We don't have a code of conduct or any of the nonsense. Someone violates it and we catch it, they're gone. (Also that's subjective to time based on how many times we caught them as well) End of.

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#92

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> You can still be a citizen of the 21st century world and not be on social media. It does not put you at any disadvantage to not have a twitter account. If you believe that it would, reconsider your priorities in life. This is analogous to all those arguments that "If you have nothing to hide, you have ", or, "If you want privacy, you always have the option to become a hermit and live completely off the grid with no…

>You keep replying in this thread but you keep making the same error because you're starting from the axiom that "blocking is bad" and deducing forward from there. I reject that axiom. Show me an example of where I said this. What I've been saying is that attempts to programmatically weed out this type of behavior and the accounts that people create to perpetuate it will ultimately be ineffective. What's the differen…

Metafilter?

> What's the difference between 10 people telling you to kill yourself and just 1, because the other 9 got blocked? Is that not still an unacceptable level of harassment?

"We can do something, but it won't be completely effective, so we shouldn't do anything."

What's the use in vaccination? After all, it doesn't completely eliminate disease. Unless used very consistently for a lifetime.

Re: Twitter Takes Aim at Anonymous Egg Accounts

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Except when Twitter makes that a heuristic for detecting bots, then they'll soon stop tweeting the same text twice.

>Except when Twitter makes that a heuristic for detecting bots There are several dozen. Maybe not turned on in prod, but that's a whole another story. In fact, within three months of joining, way back in 2012, one of my very first tasks was to write a standard datamining job that would compute the difference between the GPS location during office hours (9-5pm) and the GPS location during home hours (7pm-7am) of every…

VPNs make all of this analysis attack regular users, yes?

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#94
Just got this today:

Good day there! How are you today? I am a girl who just moved to live in this city! I have done a search on Twitter to look for man in our area and yeah I found your Twitter. In case you don't mind we can make friend and chat chit! Do you have snapchat? Please add me on Snapchat nick: [redacted] so we will chat and I can show you my personal photos! I don't like to chitchat here:) It's boring! Lets Snapchat! Sometimes I also use another Snapchat nick: [redacted] on another cellphone, kindly add this nick too if you did not see me online on Snapchat nick: [redacted] :) Hope to chat with you really soon.

Re: Twitter Takes Aim at Anonymous Egg Accounts

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There are massive bot farms on Twitter that are obvious to even casual observers and most of them don't have "egg" accounts anymore. Look at the auto-replies to any political tweet, major news story, or from a popular account, all automated garbage that follows the same template. Why Twitter ignores the crap which pollutes their product is amazing to me. Maybe they don't want to touch them because it ups the engageme…

"500.000 new Members last month!!1" (I just totally made that up) I suspect its the same as facebooks "2 Billion Users" - its just good for PR to have huge numbers. If you look too closely you might even lose Members in a Month, and we all know "growth" is very important..

Facebook and I believe Twitter report Monthly Active Users. This isn't some smoke and mirrors number. Sure, bots may count in this number, but they aren't referencing total signups when they say "Users" like you imply.

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post #92

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>You keep replying in this thread but you keep making the same error because you're starting from the axiom that "blocking is bad" and deducing forward from there. I reject that axiom. Show me an example of where I said this. What I've been saying is that attempts to programmatically weed out this type of behavior and the accounts that people create to perpetuate it will ultimately be ineffective. What's the differen…

Metafilter? > What's the difference between 10 people telling you to kill yourself and just 1, because the other 9 got blocked? Is that not still an unacceptable level of harassment? "We can do something, but it won't be completely effective, so we shouldn't do anything." What's the use in vaccination? After all, it doesn't completely eliminate disease. Unless used very consistently for a lifetime.

>"We can do something, but it won't be completely effective, so we shouldn't do anything."

Nice straw man. Again, where did I say that twitter shouldn't do anything?

Re: Twitter Takes Aim at Anonymous Egg Accounts

#97
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>Except when Twitter makes that a heuristic for detecting bots There are several dozen. Maybe not turned on in prod, but that's a whole another story. In fact, within three months of joining, way back in 2012, one of my very first tasks was to write a standard datamining job that would compute the difference between the GPS location during office hours (9-5pm) and the GPS location during home hours (7pm-7am) of every…

VPNs make all of this analysis attack regular users, yes?

Provenance of data was not in scope, 'twas more of a standard datamining "see if you can dig up something interesting" project. Like I said, there were scores of these - one of my colleagues wrote the famous soda vs pop thingy which once again put location stats to good use- http://blog.echen.me/2012/07/06/soda-vs-pop-with-twitter/

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Good point, I've never been harassed at that level before.

Not OP, but I definitely have -- it's unbelievably annoying to deal with. I had tweeted something pretty innocuous to a journalist after the election. I wasn't screaming about an illegitimate president or anything of the sort, it was something like, "Maybe we should look at adding more members of congress, it would smooth out the electoral college and make for better representation." Several months later, some random…

>Twitter was basically unusable for a week afterwards. Can you imagine that shit all the time?

I can't, because in such a situation I would just delete my account. Spending your time responding to or blocking and reporting all of them would be maddening, for sure, but that is what gives them their "power". It's easier to click only one or two buttons and just be done with it all. Let them have their little victory. Don't let some app be the doorway through which people can try to hurt you.

Re: Twitter Takes Aim at Anonymous Egg Accounts

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There are massive bot farms on Twitter that are obvious to even casual observers and most of them don't have "egg" accounts anymore. Look at the auto-replies to any political tweet, major news story, or from a popular account, all automated garbage that follows the same template. Why Twitter ignores the crap which pollutes their product is amazing to me. Maybe they don't want to touch them because it ups the engageme…

"Why Twitter ignores the crap which pollutes their product", this is easy to answer. Investors. Investors who don't care about nothing but vanity metrics, investors who don't make CEOs accountable. This is why, twitter is not the exception.

Sorry, but this explanation makes no sense. $TWTR has been a public company since 2013, with investors who emphatically do care about things other than vanity metrics.

A list of the largest Twitter shareholders[1] includes Blackrock, Vanguard, Fidelity, Morgan Stanley etc. These folks really don't care about "engagement metrics", except as proxies for revenue.

This argument can hold for earlier-stage companies with investors hoping to sell at inflated valuations to a greater fool later in line, but once you've been publicly held for several years, it's quite a stretch. Whatever's hurting Twitter's ability to fix its problems, it isn't "investor pressure".

[1] http://investors.morningstar.com/ownership/shareholders-majo...

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