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DNA tests show Subway sandwiches could contain just 50% chicken

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Re: DNA tests show Subway sandwiches could contain just 50% chicken

#91
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> The majority of the remaining DNA? Soy. The headline got me sorta terrified, imagining what sort of repugnant, monstrous creature was being grinded and mixed into my Subway sandwich. Good to know at least it's just soy.

Not good for low-carb/keto eaters. Soy has carbs, chicken doesn't. There has been some discussion regarding subway and carbs in the chicken, because their nutrition shows far fewer than some app trackers do. If it's 50%, that's a serious level of carbs, and makes Subway not an option.

Subway has nutritional information on line. They claim that a regular chicken sandwich has 45g carbs so if that's false advertising I think their customers could have solid grounds for a class-action lawsuit.

http://www.subway.com/en-us/menunutrition/menu/product?Produ...

Re: DNA tests show Subway sandwiches could contain just 50% chicken

#92
post #72

Well, soy is not the worst it could be. If it doesn't affect the taste too much, I wouldn't actually mind it. OTOH, I've eaten in some vegetarian places which make faux chicken, faux beef, faux shrimp etc. which taste pretty much like (at least some variations of) the real thing. As a meat lover, I was surprised how close they are to the real thing, I now believe with some effort at least most of the common meat usag…

> soy is not the worst it could be If you're only eating one chicken sandwich. However, if consumers turn a blind eye to this, it sets an unhealthy precedent. As a large consumption of soy has been associated with decreased testosterone. If more and more business start toeing the regulation lines and only putting in as much real meat as legally needed, filling the rest in with soy, it might start an epidemic.

> large consumption of soy has been associated with decreased testosterone.

From what I was reading, some studies did find it, but these studies used massive amounts of soy not likely to be encountered in every day diet. And also there's this: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0015028209...

Clinical studies show no effects of soy protein or isoflavones on reproductive hormones in men: results of a meta-analysis

So I would say talking about epidemic is premature.

Re: DNA tests show Subway sandwiches could contain just 50% chicken

#93
post #72

Well, soy is not the worst it could be. If it doesn't affect the taste too much, I wouldn't actually mind it. OTOH, I've eaten in some vegetarian places which make faux chicken, faux beef, faux shrimp etc. which taste pretty much like (at least some variations of) the real thing. As a meat lover, I was surprised how close they are to the real thing, I now believe with some effort at least most of the common meat usag…

>Well, soy is not the worst it could be.

Too true. People who eat at Subway must have some idea that they're not paying for the best, and frankly I'd guess most would be thrilled to learn that the secret filler wasn't rat ass.

Re: DNA tests show Subway sandwiches could contain just 50% chicken

#95
post #4

> The majority of the remaining DNA? Soy. The headline got me sorta terrified, imagining what sort of repugnant, monstrous creature was being grinded and mixed into my Subway sandwich. Good to know at least it's just soy.

Plus preservatives. Preservatives lead to cancer.

Re: DNA tests show Subway sandwiches could contain just 50% chicken

#96
post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Bread is really terrible for you Maybe for some people. But we don't have the nutritional science to say this definitively, let alone universally.

And let me just note that what the English-speaking world considers bread is an abomination. Sincerely, a German. (Seriously, if you can compact it easily to a third of the size, that's just wrong. And don't get me started on the strange interior.)

If you think our bread is bad, stay far away from American cheese...

Re: DNA tests show Subway sandwiches could contain just 50% chicken

#97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Having it be entirely chicken. Google how they make chicken nuggets for McDonald's.

Doesn't seem that bad: http://www.businessinsider.com/how-chicken-mcnuggets-are-mad... The "chicken skin for flavoring" part isn't especially appealing, but chicken skin is fat+protein, just like the rest of the nuggets.

So long as you're eating chicken, adding in the skin isn't too unreasonable. You eat the skin with chicken wings and fried chicken anyway. And it's not like they're using chicken skins in vegan foods, where you otherwise wouldn't expect the involvement of chicken.

Re: DNA tests show Subway sandwiches could contain just 50% chicken

#99
post #4

> The majority of the remaining DNA? Soy. The headline got me sorta terrified, imagining what sort of repugnant, monstrous creature was being grinded and mixed into my Subway sandwich. Good to know at least it's just soy.

Not good for low-carb/keto eaters. Soy has carbs, chicken doesn't. There has been some discussion regarding subway and carbs in the chicken, because their nutrition shows far fewer than some app trackers do. If it's 50%, that's a serious level of carbs, and makes Subway not an option.

Well, if I can believe this [1], then hidden carbs in chicken is not the only thing keto eaters have to worry about.

[1] https://bengreenfieldfitness.com/2011/08/the-hidden-dangers-...

Re: DNA tests show Subway sandwiches could contain just 50% chicken

#100
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post #4

> The majority of the remaining DNA? Soy. The headline got me sorta terrified, imagining what sort of repugnant, monstrous creature was being grinded and mixed into my Subway sandwich. Good to know at least it's just soy.

At least it isn't sawdust.

Apparently dairy cows are perfectly happy and healthy eating a diet that is mostly sawdust.

At least, that's what I learned when I took a course on ruminant nutrition and digestion when I was a graduate student at UC Davis.

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