gwern has a great write-up on this: https://www.gwern.net/LSD%20microdosing
Where he reports a null result. It's wasting your money, take a full dose or not at all.
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Re: LSD 'microdosing' is trending in Silicon Valley
#92I would strongly encourage anyone looking for new perceptions that aid in concentration and/or creativity to first really try, and properly try, and without giving up too soon, the art of meditation. It's cheaper, safer, longer-lasting, and most certainly a higher-quality experience once properly learned.
It took me years... years... but the result of meditation (and some CBT in there to guide the process) is that I went from daily, crippling anxiety to virtually none at all now. It was harder than taking a pill at first, but I see where the people who went down the benzodiazepine road are today, and for me at least, I know I made the right choice.
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#93Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Some people take trips and never come back off these drugs What? Hallucinogens don't cause physical dependency and tolerance builds quickly so psychological habits are hard to form as well.
HPPD is definitely a real thing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hallucinogen_persisting_percep... And there is some evidence that taking psychedelics can precipitate long lasting or even chronic psychosis in those with genetic predispositions I interpreted what they said as a reflection of those facts, though you are correct that risk of dependence is relatively low
If you're familiar with the literature you'll find meta-analysis with a lot of phrases like "At present, HPPD appears to be a genuine but uncommon disorder". YEah, its in the DSM, but at best it's vanishingly rare. And according to the DSM past hallucinogen in combination with the symptoms alone is not enough to constitute a diagnosis of HPPD. It's also tangled up with a number of other confounding mental illnesses. And, even still it's believed that a user must possess preexisting risk factors in addition to heavy use to trigger HPPD. What I'm driving at is that microdosing is almost certainly unlikely to cause HPPD in healthy adults.
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#94gwern has a great write-up on this: https://www.gwern.net/LSD%20microdosing
Where he reports a null result. It's wasting your money, take a full dose or not at all.
Re: LSD 'microdosing' is trending in Silicon Valley
#95I think self-reported gains in creativity are meaningless in defending LSD microdosing. Psychedelics are not magic creativity chemicals and their use does not inherently make anyone more creative. How are we defining creative? What does that even mean? Is the code I wrote on LSD really that much better than the code I wrote sober or on a different drug or combination of drugs altogether? What about strategic business decisions, design work, or documentation? How does one accurately measure 'creativity'- is that even a desired trait while working for most people?
I also don't see why it's necessary to use hallucinogens during the work day. Why can't you just drop acid on the weekend or vacation when you actually have the time to enjoy the experience (as heavily as you'd like) in whatever setting you feel most comfortable in? If you really are invested enough in your career to do psychedelics for the sole purpose of workplace creativity, can't you just do your creative thinking then? I think this approach to applying hallucinogens to your work would be as effective as microdosing, if not more so.
My biggest criticism is this though: isn't the whole point of psychedelics the expansion of consciousness and wisdom beyond its current state? The psychedelic community is generally a fairly anti-authoritarian one and I tend to think that it's not just because the state often treats the use of hallucinogens with the same level of violence as far more socially dangerous behavior. Using psychedelics for as shallow of a reason as coming up with ways to better optimize your stupid advertisement platform to sell foot cream to seniors is a tragedy. Besides, there already exist drugs for this purpose (coffee).
And these points ignore the main risks which are obviously being caught and having an adverse health effect.
I think this is a stupid trend highly indicative of just how boring and uncreative the tech industry is. At the end of the day, some of us use drugs to get through the work day. If you want to use psychedelics to do so, that's your business, I don't know how you function, but I doubt you're drastically outperforming the coffee guy or the straight edge guy at the office.
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#96Earlier quoted context omitted.
I would put that into the "Copper wristband" category. Meanwhile Modafinil...
Meanwhile Modafinil and other drugs made lives of thousands of people better allowing them to get back on track in life, fight depression, be able to focus and get a job etc. Drugs are demonized in our culture but a lot of people can get a lot of benefits out of them, that includes steroids as well if you know what you are doing. You don't make anyone any favors by spreading illegal drugs = health problems attitude.
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#97Earlier quoted context omitted.
I would put that into the "Copper wristband" category. Meanwhile Modafinil...
Meanwhile Modafinil and other drugs made lives of thousands of people better allowing them to get back on track in life, fight depression, be able to focus and get a job etc. Drugs are demonized in our culture but a lot of people can get a lot of benefits out of them, that includes steroids as well if you know what you are doing. You don't make anyone any favors by spreading illegal drugs = health problems attitude.
Re: LSD 'microdosing' is trending in Silicon Valley
#98Provided the quality and dosage was strictly controlled and adjusted to fit the user. Discipline also needed to avoid too much too often. Doesn't help that it's illegal.
You wouldn't want to be doing it to fix a "normal problem" that could be addressed by eating nutritious food and getting more sleep for example.
Psychedelics aren't suited to capitalist agendas either. The idea is to use psychedelics away from the office for perspective and focus shift. I suppose that's normal dosages though, and the idea here is micro-dosages which would be more like a good strong coffee but a clearer more mental buzz.
An extra hit above the micro-dose might make you shut down your PC and head to the park for the rest of the day. Risk.
Let's face it, we're not all building things that are making the world a better place. Psychedelics tend to expose anything trivial that's masquerading as important. Your ability to discriminate genuine from fake is sharper. At normal dosages at least, you feel attracted to these insights and will follow them out the door if that's where they lead.