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High-Memory Instances and $5 Linodes

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Re: High-Memory Instances and $5 Linodes

#91

Post by greendata »

ben_bai wrote: post #81
msbarnett wrote: post #16

Digital Ocean really needs to cut their prices at this point. There's no compelling reason to pay them 50% more for the same thing.

I don't get the whole VPS thing anyway. 5$ for playing around is great but anything that costs more is just not worth it. 60$/month for 16GB, 1CPU, 20GB disk for VPS... in comparison a root server with real remote console access, 16GB, 4 core AMD, 4TB disks, unlimited traffic costs me 30EUR/month (30$/month). Or for 60EUR/month (60$) I could get a root server with 64GB Ram, 2x500GB SSD, i7-6700, 30TB traffic.

What company?

Re: High-Memory Instances and $5 Linodes

#92

Post by msbarnett »

ben_bai wrote: post #81
msbarnett wrote: post #16

Digital Ocean really needs to cut their prices at this point. There's no compelling reason to pay them 50% more for the same thing.

I don't get the whole VPS thing anyway. 5$ for playing around is great but anything that costs more is just not worth it. 60$/month for 16GB, 1CPU, 20GB disk for VPS... in comparison a root server with real remote console access, 16GB, 4 core AMD, 4TB disks, unlimited traffic costs me 30EUR/month (30$/month). Or for 60EUR/month (60$) I could get a root server with 64GB Ram, 2x500GB SSD, i7-6700, 30TB traffic.

I've pointed this out to people on numerous occasions, and the push-back I always get is concerns about timely provisioning if they ever need more capacity and/or new servers in case of catastrophe.

OVH et al can get you servers quickly if they have them "in stock", but supply fluctuates wildly, especially on the cheaper end.

Re: High-Memory Instances and $5 Linodes

#93

Post by 00deadbeef »

ben_bai wrote: post #81
msbarnett wrote: post #16

Digital Ocean really needs to cut their prices at this point. There's no compelling reason to pay them 50% more for the same thing.

I don't get the whole VPS thing anyway. 5$ for playing around is great but anything that costs more is just not worth it. 60$/month for 16GB, 1CPU, 20GB disk for VPS... in comparison a root server with real remote console access, 16GB, 4 core AMD, 4TB disks, unlimited traffic costs me 30EUR/month (30$/month). Or for 60EUR/month (60$) I could get a root server with 64GB Ram, 2x500GB SSD, i7-6700, 30TB traffic.

You pay for the scalability. Your 4 core AMD is always a 4 core AMD unless you migrate to a new server. Your 1 core Linode can become a 20 core Linode in a few minutes, for just a few hours while you need the capacity, and then go back to being a cheap 1 core Linode.

Re: High-Memory Instances and $5 Linodes

#94

Post by anatoly »

Veratyr wrote: post #59
pjungwir wrote: post #25

Linode is my top choice for hosting, but lately I've been tinkering on a project that needs a lot of disk, and it's hard to find good options there. On AWS every dimension scales independently, but with Linode I can't buy disk without buying CPU and RAM too. When I had a similar need a few years ago, I wound up renting a dedicated server, where even the cheapest came with 2TB or so. I'd love to just stick with Linode…

If you want disk, as in spinning rust, I think it's going to remain that way for a long time. For some reason cloud providers don't like to offer disk at a reasonable price. I suspect it might be because it's not actually a single disk but space on something like a RAID10 SAN, where costs are higher since it inherently requires more hardware. Personally, I settled with colocation. I pay $60/mo + $2k one-off for the i…

Speaking as someone who hasn't tried colocation, would you care to recommend your provider or explain who the Linode and the DO are in that space?

Re: High-Memory Instances and $5 Linodes

#95

Post by sedachv »

Crisco wrote: post #38
msbarnett wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

6-of-1, half a dozen of the other. Halving their prices on all current instances gives you the same specs at the same pricepoints. I don't particularly care if they keep around a 512MB/$2.50 instance at that point.

I would, however, love that price point. It would be nice if I could run a few light-weight services on a VPS for $2.50 a month and then put my websites and other projects on a beefier VM. I currently use Linode, but if DigitalOcean offered something at that pricepoint they would be getting $2.50 more from me a month than they currently do.

ARIN charges for IPv4 address allocation (https://www.arin.net/fees/fee_schedule.html) and I read that below $5 a month it becomes unprofitable for hosting companies just because of the cost of leasing IP addresses. If your services can run on shared hosting there are a bunch of hosts for less than $1 a month around.

Re: High-Memory Instances and $5 Linodes

#96

Post by [deleted] »

Matheus28 wrote: post #90
mwpmaybe wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, they've changed in the past... it's fine as long as the plans corresponding to the PlanIDs never get smaller or more expensive. This particular change violates that assumption and so is definitely not fine.

The hardcoded plan (PlanID 2) that I had in my program was pointing to a 4 GB 2 CPU plan (4 GB), now it's pointing to a 2 GB 1 CPU plan (2 GB).

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Re: High-Memory Instances and $5 Linodes

#97

Post by [deleted] »

deftnerd wrote: post #78
pjungwir wrote: post #25

Linode is my top choice for hosting, but lately I've been tinkering on a project that needs a lot of disk, and it's hard to find good options there. On AWS every dimension scales independently, but with Linode I can't buy disk without buying CPU and RAM too. When I had a similar need a few years ago, I wound up renting a dedicated server, where even the cheapest came with 2TB or so. I'd love to just stick with Linode…

Delimiter has a clever solution for $10 a month. They call it Slot Hosting. You ship them a disk and they'll host it and attach it as additional storage on a VPS. https://www.delimiter.com/slot-hosting/ I use it to host an 8tb drive that I then attach to a dedicated server I rent for $20 a month. $30 a month and I have a server that I use for Plex (16 cores, 3.2ghz, 32 gigs of memory, and 10tb of total storage).

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Re: High-Memory Instances and $5 Linodes

#98

Post by BrianT »

deftnerd wrote: post #78
pjungwir wrote: post #25

Linode is my top choice for hosting, but lately I've been tinkering on a project that needs a lot of disk, and it's hard to find good options there. On AWS every dimension scales independently, but with Linode I can't buy disk without buying CPU and RAM too. When I had a similar need a few years ago, I wound up renting a dedicated server, where even the cheapest came with 2TB or so. I'd love to just stick with Linode…

Delimiter has a clever solution for $10 a month. They call it Slot Hosting. You ship them a disk and they'll host it and attach it as additional storage on a VPS. https://www.delimiter.com/slot-hosting/ I use it to host an 8tb drive that I then attach to a dedicated server I rent for $20 a month. $30 a month and I have a server that I use for Plex (16 cores, 3.2ghz, 32 gigs of memory, and 10tb of total storage).

[Disclosure - I work at Delimiter]

Thanks for the recommendation, slot hosting is a good solution if you need to get a disk online with a VPS attached to it.

We've had a lot of people asking how you did this so just to explain:

Slot hosting $120/year ($10/month) - that gives you one 3.5" or 2.5" slot to send your disk in. You can aggregate up multiple slots and aggregate the VPS resources into one large VM. This is great for things like ZFS and software RAID. The VM is KVM based. https://www.delimiter.com/slot-hosting/

The server is this: Dual E5420, 16GB RAM, 1TB or 2x500GB HDD $200/year ($16.66/month). https://cc.delimiter.com/?cmd=cart&action=add&id=1718

Slot hosting uses dedicated (non-contended) CPU/RAM/Disk resources so you can run Plex directly on it if you have enough slots aggregated to give you the RAM.

Re: High-Memory Instances and $5 Linodes

#99

Post by jordanthoms »

mwpmaybe wrote: post #45

PSA: If you're using the Linode API, the 2048 plan is now PlanID 2 and the new 1024 plan is now PlanID 1. The other PlanIDs were incremented by one as well. I wish they hadn't done that, but there it is.

That's just... ugh. Who thought ordinal numbers were a good idea for plan ids / instance types? Seems part of what you are paying extra for with AWS/GCP etc is competent engineering.

Re: High-Memory Instances and $5 Linodes

#100

Post by thatusernametho »

BrianT wrote: post #98
deftnerd wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Delimiter has a clever solution for $10 a month. They call it Slot Hosting. You ship them a disk and they'll host it and attach it as additional storage on a VPS. https://www.delimiter.com/slot-hosting/ I use it to host an 8tb drive that I then attach to a dedicated server I rent for $20 a month. $30 a month and I have a server that I use for Plex (16 cores, 3.2ghz, 32 gigs of memory, and 10tb of total storage).

[Disclosure - I work at Delimiter] Thanks for the recommendation, slot hosting is a good solution if you need to get a disk online with a VPS attached to it. We've had a lot of people asking how you did this so just to explain: Slot hosting $120/year ($10/month) - that gives you one 3.5" or 2.5" slot to send your disk in. You can aggregate up multiple slots and aggregate the VPS resources into one large VM. This is g…

Why annual pricing? I'd do it if you had monthly pricing.....Since the payment is annual what happens if 2 or 3 months in I decide to change and need something else?
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