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RethinkDB joins the Linux Foundation: What Happens Next

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Re: RethinkDB joins the Linux Foundation: What Happens Next

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Post by tracker1 »

dirkg wrote: post #88

This is great news! Rethink is NoSql DB done properly, I know many others such as Cassandra often get mentioned as alternatives to Mongo but they aren't really. I just hope the rigor and correctness that have characterized RethinkDB continue moving forward as a community project. Part of me feels sad it never caught on and will never be a commercial success like Mongo, but that's in the past. Horizon is another excit…

RethinkDB is in my mind firstly Mongo done right... Cassandra is a very different beast, but seems to be the better option when you need massive (100+ node clusters) scaling, but that comes with a lot of work in terms of development.

While RethinkDB is probably most comparable to Mongo, it's worth noting that the sharding/replication/fail-over support and model is much better than Mongo's. Beyond that, the update notifications (streams) are in the box, where with mongo it's bolt-on. Also, rethink supports joins at the server (though best to avoid a lot of the time).

The admin ux is pretty awesome, and the dev team has been very cool to follow.

Re: RethinkDB joins the Linux Foundation: What Happens Next

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Post by tracker1 »

wmf wrote: post #57
ausjke wrote: post #27

Linux foundation are collecting quite a lot "failed" projects and turn them to gold these days? I sometimes feel it is acting like a software goodwill store partially. Whatever that is, hope RethinkDB will do well in the future.

IMO the ASF is better at collecting abandoned failed software while LF has more openwashed corporate code dumps. CNCF is actually legit though because they generally accept technically sound software that is already successful.

RethinkDB is quite a bit more than an openwashed code dump though. It seems like a natural fit to some of the rest of the CNCF work, and probably why they had an interest... though not a direct fit, hense being under LF proper instead of CNCF.

I think it's an appropriate home though. ASF always seems like a minefield when I look into some of their projects.

Re: RethinkDB joins the Linux Foundation: What Happens Next

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Post by ohstopitu »

chrisabrams wrote: post #70
ohstopitu wrote: post #36

I wish some company (apart from compose.io) would create a RethinkDB as a service (DBaaS). I would totally love a dynamodb or firebase kind of payment structure! I specifically excluded compose not because their service is not great (from what I've heard - it's excellent) but more so because they charge a premium for it.

There are a couple of community members seriously considering this with the license change.

If there is any way I can help (anything from building, or even just documentation or support), I'd love to get involved.

I am very passionate about XaaS (X as a service) think that we need a lot more DBaaS and we just don't seem to have that many options to choose from which is sad considering almost all software projects out there - especially the hobby ones would benefit so much from such a service.

Re: RethinkDB joins the Linux Foundation: What Happens Next

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Post by chrisfosterelli »

atmosx wrote: post #75
chrisfosterelli wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't have much to add, but as someone who has a lot of projects dependent on RethinkDB and also loves using it: Thank you to everyone involved!

Do you/would you use for anything other than something that needs live updates ASAP?

We use changefeeds but just to update Elasicsearch. The key value offer is the very powerful query language which feels right at home in Node, strong robustness, and real proper join support with NoSQL.

Re: RethinkDB joins the Linux Foundation: What Happens Next

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Post by karim »

hodgesrm wrote: post #74
afarrell wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder if they could have closed more deals if they'd promised to do something like this. Then again, maybe the board would have balked at that as a sign of no confidence.

You generally have to move carefully to get proprietary software to an open source model. One typical customer reaction to rumors you are open sourcing is "Great! We'll wait until you do that to try it out." The result is that [already not good] sales may tank completely.

Also known as the Obsborne effect (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osborne_effect).

Re: RethinkDB joins the Linux Foundation: What Happens Next

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Post by detaro »

hueving wrote: post #96

I'm not too familiar with RethinkDB. Can someone explain why it's so popular on HN? The wiki page shows that it's not that popular overall and the comparison to other DBs makes it sound pretty bad.[1] 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RethinkDB

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13581872

Re: RethinkDB joins the Linux Foundation: What Happens Next

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Post by was_boring »

afarrell wrote: post #20
zyang wrote: post #5

I stayed away from Rethink in the past few years due to its uncertain future. Now I'm seriously interested. Looking forward to the next chapter of RethinkDB.

I wonder if they could have closed more deals if they'd promised to do something like this. Then again, maybe the board would have balked at that as a sign of no confidence.

I think as a consumer DB that may have helped. However, if the company (rethinkdb in this case) is still small enough, and the client big enough, than they can work out a contract that states that the source code gets licensed to them in the case of a shutdown.

This allows the company to get larger accounts with no real downside as they would be out of business.

Re: RethinkDB joins the Linux Foundation: What Happens Next

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Post by jcl »

cdnsteve wrote: post #71

Is this one of the first companies that has made the transition from business to fully open-source? If so this could set an interesting president for others to follow suite under similar circumstances.

Blender would seem to be another example:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blender_(software)#History

Re: RethinkDB joins the Linux Foundation: What Happens Next

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Post by mglukhovsky »

marknadal wrote: post #79
mglukhovsky wrote: post #2

Bryan Cantrill posted his thoughts on the CNCF's decision to donate RethinkDB to The Linux Foundation here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13579544 We wanted to share RethinkDB's next steps in our new home with The Linux Foundation. We've also had a lot of folks ask if they can donate to support the project. Stripe has generously offered to match up to $25k in donations (which will help fund server costs and fu…

Mike and Slava, you guys are so great! You've worked overtime to secure social confidence in RethinkDB for others when the engineering talent alone was good enough. You guys are so admirable and hard workers and such a good role model to others.

Thanks Mark, I appreciate the kind words.
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