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Re: Getting out of the cloud…

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Post by Anthony-G » Tue, Jan 31, 2017, 8:28 PM UTC

floatboth wrote: post #73

patrickk wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've heard good things about Hetzner: https://www.hetzner.de/us/hosting/ You get the benefits of strong German privacy laws, on top of the EU's data protection directive[1]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_Protection_Directive

heh, Hetzner literally asked for a scan of my passport when I wanted to get a VPS.

They require some form of government-issued ID so I provided them with a driving licence. I figured it wasn't a bad trade-off for a decent service. Germany seems to value data privacy much more than my own (Irish) government).

Re: Getting out of the cloud…

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Post by Bombthecat » Tue, Jan 31, 2017, 9:36 PM UTC

shaki-dora wrote: post #52

emptyfile wrote: post #38

Starting to think the Trump presidency will be great for Europe, by making it politically unfeasible for European politicians to continue pretending the US is a good ally, leader of the free world, champion of liberal values, etc... The US fifth column voluntarily leaving the EU will surely expedite the process.

By any objective standard, the last 70 years were the best ever for Europe, and the world as a whole. There are certainly differences of opinion and interests between Europe and the US, but they are far from negating the overlaps. The ideas that the US has propagated are fundamentally sound, and any US hypocrisy may undermine the effort to spread them, but not the value they offer. If you are an average citizen anywh…

Exactly we are at a peek. Like a bubble in stock. It is about to pop.

Re: Getting out of the cloud…

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Post by milesrout » Wed, Feb 01, 2017, 12:03 AM UTC

askmike wrote: post #41

milesrout wrote: post #37

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Yes, people are proposing that people download their email. How is that controversial? That's how email works. It's not like emails are large.

A huge number of emails plus attachments are large in size. It is that controversial because it is hard to make it perform on a mobile device over a crappy 3g connection.

Emails are text, and text compresses extremely well. Attachments are literally always unnecessary.

Re: Getting out of the cloud…

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Post by askmike » Wed, Feb 01, 2017, 10:10 AM UTC

milesrout wrote: post #93

askmike wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A huge number of emails plus attachments are large in size. It is that controversial because it is hard to make it perform on a mobile device over a crappy 3g connection.

Emails are text, and text compresses extremely well. Attachments are literally always unnecessary.

> Attachments are literally always unnecessary.

Why? Are you dropping support to search through them?

Re: Getting out of the cloud…

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Post by tripzilch » Tue, Feb 07, 2017, 12:53 PM UTC

Anthony-G wrote: post #91

floatboth wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

heh, Hetzner literally asked for a scan of my passport when I wanted to get a VPS.

They require some form of government-issued ID so I provided them with a driving licence. I figured it wasn't a bad trade-off for a decent service. Germany seems to value data privacy much more than my own (Irish) government).

In the Netherlands, when businesses ask for such a thing, you are allowed to black out many non-required parts of the scan (this includes the photo), as well as paste a large watermark over the image. The watermark would contain the date and state the purpose of the scanned ID, to prevent re-use for anything else, if it were to be misplaced somehow.

I'm not sure how that works in Germany but I would sooner send a too-much-redacted scan and have them refuse and ask to see more of it, than send an actual complete scan of my ID to anyone but the government that issued it.

Not that governments are so good at not accidentally misplacing data. But it reduces the surface, at least.