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Re: Introducing: The Facebook Journalism Project

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Post by thrusong »

notatoad wrote: post #63
mattlevan wrote: post #8

Is there anything Zuckerberg doesn't want to get his company involved with? It's been said on HN again and again, but I'm really looking forward to a decentralized digital publishing platform that gains momentum and actually gives Facebook a run for its money. Anyone know of any such existing platforms up and running now? Last I looked into this, I discovered "Steemit", but it doesn't seem very promising.

>Is there anything Zuckerberg doesn't want to get his company involved with? I've seen quite a few comments (on HN and elsewhere) since all the "fake news" buzz started saying essentially "Facebook needs to stop pretending they aren't a news company. They are where people get their news, and they need to take responsibility for that" And I completely agree. Whether zuck wants to be in the news business or not, he alr…

I agree. Their main product is called "News" Feed, after all.

Re: Introducing: The Facebook Journalism Project

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Post by soundwave106 »

the_watcher wrote: post #30
_23sd wrote: post #5

I'm interested to see where the local news initiative goes. Big outlets have plenty of room to innovate with or without Facebook's help, but newspapers outside of state capitals seem to be in a difficult position of falling subscriptions and no way to replace that revenue online.

The local news piece was by far the most interesting to me as well. Until recently, nearly all journalists got their starts in local news, and as Facebook correctly notes, it has the advantage of focusing on stories that actually impact the intended audience's day to day life. Also, since the readers are often closer to the actual events, players, and issues described, it's arguable that the readers are less suscepti…

My personal social media experience at Nextdoor (which is focused completely on the local), and I know this is anecdotal, is that that a lot of the people cut out the big, over-dramatically sweeping hyperbolic politics when the topic / scope of conversation is more localized in nature. At least, I mostly see reports on the neighborhood, events and complaints, services advertisements, etc. People have opinions, of course, but its not the binary hyperbolic type stuff that personifies too much of national politics (and sadly tends to leak over on too many Facebook posts).

(From this viewpoint, I'd see a model like Nextdoor an easier fit for a local news initiative... Facebook's scope just seems too global at first glance for them to do a very good job.)

Re: Introducing: The Facebook Journalism Project

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Post by Pigo »

mattlevan wrote: post #45
sogen wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Old stuff I remember that used to live on the internets: mIRC, BBS, Usenet groups, Online Chat, Forums

Oh, yea. How could I forget? I still use IRC on a daily basis... I don't think of it as a place to read news, though.

I get back on once in awhile just to see if people are going back. I'm wondering if any network is growing besides Freenet. Freenet is cool, and I get on for work once in awhile. But I really miss when Undernet and Dalnet where massive, with all sorts of stuff happening. Maybe I'm just out of touch with what the active networks are.

Re: Introducing: The Facebook Journalism Project

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Post by Kalium »

jawns wrote: post #16

This is sort of like Amazon announcing that it wants to strengthen its partnership with mom-and-pop shops, and help those mom-and-pop shops sell products in new and innovative ways. I'm a former journalist who used to work for a metro daily newspaper that has long suffered, as most newspapers have, from declining ad revenue. For these papers, the only reason to partner with Facebook is because they feel they have lit…

> But so far, the news industry has not found anything that adequately replaces the print-ad-driven business model that served it so well for so long.

I shell out of Nautilus and The Economist. The content is excellent and engaging. The access is reasonable. Ads are not obnoxious or intrusive.

It seems to me that there are perfectly functional models here...

Re: Introducing: The Facebook Journalism Project

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Post by oculusthrift »

NoGravitas wrote: post #53
oculusthrift wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

because "mainstream media" like nyt and wapo have well respected, educated journalists working around the clock to research stories and find evidence whereas "alternative media" is a guy in his moms basement making up stories. just as with science, people only dispute it when it goes against their own interests.

That's quite an oversimplification. Your characterization of the alternative media is sometimes right (except that they're usually not making up stories -- they're usually summarizing stories produced by regular journalists, often with an editorial overlay). But there are also alternative media sources doing real research and investigative journalism, like Democracy Now! and the Intercept. On the other hand, the bigg…

perhaps, but in today's political climate i think its a fair simplification. the vast majority of people take argue your side to mean that PizzaGate is real and that NYT stories critical of trump are all fake.

Re: Introducing: The Facebook Journalism Project

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Post by richardboegli »

MasterScrat wrote: post #85
philippnagel wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am currently tinkering with something that might help. Basically you would "sell" your readers CPU/GPU time to us via a small JS-script embedded into your page to power ML/DL and scientific computation tasks (similar to BOINC). Thoughts?

Reminds me of the hackathon project made by MIT students. It was the same idea but it would mine BTC instead of doing ML in Javascript. Site archive here: https://web.archive.org/web/20140425180831/http://tidbit.co.... To be honest if I had a dead simple way to pay a few cents to read an article I would do it for a number of publications. But I'm not willing to signup individually to each one.

Google's Contributor

https://contributor.google.com/

From Wikipedia:

Google Contributor is a program run by Google that allows users in the Google Network of content sites to view the websites without any advertisements that are administered, sorted, and maintained by Google.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Contributor

Re: Introducing: The Facebook Journalism Project

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Post by kristineberth »

mattlevan wrote: post #8

Is there anything Zuckerberg doesn't want to get his company involved with? It's been said on HN again and again, but I'm really looking forward to a decentralized digital publishing platform that gains momentum and actually gives Facebook a run for its money. Anyone know of any such existing platforms up and running now? Last I looked into this, I discovered "Steemit", but it doesn't seem very promising.

PressReader.

6,000+ publishing partners around the world (USA Today, Washington Post, The Guardian, Le Monde, Newsweek, Bloomberg Businessweek, Vogue, GQ, etc.) Unlimited access model, all you can read on your smartphone or tablet.

Two business models: (1) Consumer subscription ($29.95USD/mo) (2) Sponsored by a business (stay at one of 10,000+ hotels who sponsor PressReader access for their guests, fly with airlines like Qantas, visit a local library that sponsors access, etc.)

Millions of MAUs and growing at light speed.

Business model: royalties paid to publishers whenever someone reads their content, so generates revenue and audience for publishers.

(Full disclosure: I work for PressReader.)

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