Uber Movement

Post by bogomipz » Mon, Jan 09, 2017, 6:02 AM UTC

yummyfajitas wrote: post #78

wpietri wrote: post #72

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You have a very poor understanding of what civil disobedience is. As MLK wrote, "One who breaks an unjust law must do so openly, lovingly, and with a willingness to accept the penalty. I submit that an individual who breaks a law that conscience tells him is unjust, and who willingly accepts the penalty of imprisonment in order to arouse the conscience of the community over its injustice, is in reality expressing the…

On the contrary, Kalanick is directly appealing to the conscience of the community. Whenever regulators attempt to shut him down he appeals directly to the public: "Bill de Blasio/Shiv Sena/Telangana Taxi Association/etc wants to take away your ride!" Many in the civil rights movement also broke laws for their own profit or other benefit; they wanted the right to work any job they were qualified for, live in any neig…

Post by inimino » Mon, Jan 09, 2017, 6:12 AM UTC

yummyfajitas wrote: post #75

chiaro wrote: post #66

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It's perfectly consistent to believe that the civil rights movement meets one's threshold for justifiable civil disobedience, while Uber's plight does not.

Perhaps, but that's an argument that needs to be made. It wasn't.

Post by prdonahue » Mon, Jan 09, 2017, 6:28 AM UTC

dtnewman wrote: post #55

losvedir wrote: post #51

Very interesting. I worry about a selection bias, though. Uber riders are wealthier than average, so the trips won't necessarily reflect all the commutes of those in the city. I hope this doesn't lead to just an improvement in bus routes, road construction, traffic, etc. between nicer sections of the city.

Not just wealthier [1], but also younger and more urban. People who have 25 mile commutes from the suburbs--even very wealthy suburbs--are more likely to own cars and less likely to use Uber. [1] In cities with good public transit (e.g., Boston, NYC), uber can seem more like a luxury but in cities that are very car centric (e.g., Detroit, Miami), Uber is actually cheaper than owning a car for many people. I live in M…

Post by [deleted] » Mon, Jan 09, 2017, 7:14 AM UTC

tedmiston wrote: post #24

From the FAQ: > What are the licensing terms? > Movement makes all insights available under the Creative Commons, Attribution Non-Commercial license. Now, that's pretty interesting. I wonder if we'll have API level access in a way that we can build tools on this data.

Post by wpietri » Mon, Jan 09, 2017, 7:33 AM UTC

synicalx wrote: post #80

wpietri wrote: post #74

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Try talking to some ex-Uber drivers. I don't think I've spoke with one that felt adequately informed by Uber. There may be adequate information now, but only because enough people bought in to Uber's marketing had poor experiences, and have talked about them. I also don't think "enough readily available information" is a good standard to judge commerce by. There's enough readily available information out there for su…

A ponzi scheme is completely different to Uber so comparing the two isn't helpful. Uber is comparable to working as an freelance/indy contractor, in fact it's almost exactly the same. Uber has always been clear about how it works for the drivers, and not reading/understanding terms and conditions isn't an excuse for not taking responsibility for yourself. Their early marketing quite literally spelled out that this is…