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What's the point of even having a price sticker if what's charged is more than what it says? Are some people exempt from the sales tax added? Is it dynamic depdending on the total amount charged?
Tax-free sticker price is good for making you aware how much you are paying for the product and how much goes to the tax man.
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#92Earlier quoted context omitted.
What's the point of even having a price sticker if what's charged is more than what it says? Are some people exempt from the sales tax added? Is it dynamic depdending on the total amount charged?
Tax-free sticker price is good for making you aware how much you are paying for the product and how much goes to the tax man.
When I buy groceries here in Norway, there is VAT: 15% on most food, 25% on most other items, and none on newspapers, magazines, and books. It is common for me to buy a mix of items at the store.
All of the prices listed on the shelf include this VAT tax, which is similar to the sales tax in the US. I can always figure out what I'm going to pay, save for guessing some prices for weighed goods.
On the reciept, there is a line telling me how much of the total bill was taxes. Therefore I can always know how much goes to the tax man.
Even if I was living in the states, it isn't so hard to figure out so long as you have calculator access and know the local sales tax amount.
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#93Even if these restaurants succeed, one risk is that 'no tipping' is just something that upscale restaurants in rich areas adopt because only they can afford to. Waiters in those restaurants are already compensated much better than your average waiter on a roadway diner -- this would literally only be helping the already better off.
Or you know just pay people minimum wage at least. I am not sure why certain service based jobs in America attract a tip and some do not.
Legally, the employer is supposed to ensure that the wages plus tips equal out to the $7.25 per hour. Legally, they are paying minimum wage. We need the laws changed to fix this issue, but the government doesn't seem primed to make these sorts of changes.
As far as why some jobs attract a tip and others don't, I think it has to do with a combination of custom and what sort of work one does: On top of this, some service sector employers prohibit employees from taking gifts or tips from customers (retail, for example, generally prohibits this and you can get fired for accepting). This obviously has an impact on the norms.
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#94Earlier quoted context omitted.
Or you know just pay people minimum wage at least. I am not sure why certain service based jobs in America attract a tip and some do not.
Presumably it A) benefits the worker, since they make extra if they provide good service, B) benefits the employer, because the worker is motivated to provide good service, and C) the service level is highly visible to the customer, who they interact closely with. I tip my hair cutter, but not my car mechanic, mostly due to C, I guess.
Interesting you should mention. I've seen evidence where this was tested in a local consumer right program. Someone would disconnect their spark plug, and then act as if they're an innocent driver who's car is broken. Or a piece of rubber of < 5 EUR was removed. Some car technicians were honest (mostly those who were part of trade organisation BOVAG), don't get me wrong. But some also deceived/lied about the problem, and made the customer pay insane prices to fix a simple problem. They also tested if technicians would fix an additional, obvious problem. One even fixed the problem, but made something else worse. In short, I'm not going to assume anymore that car technicians are honestly going to fix all the problems my car has.
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#95Wage slavery is especially rampant in the food and beverage industry where low margins and high competition are the norm. Including "tips" (you could still tip for extraordinary service) as well as sales tax in the price might be the first step towards more transparency and fair pay for everyone involved (owners to waiters) in what essentially amounts to a luxury service anyway.
How is it a luxury service?
How are these not luxury services?
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#96i'm curious to know if abolishing tipping reduces performance? it seems like there's no reason to put in extra effort if all of them are paid the same and that the worst performer could be paid the same as the best.
You say there is no reason to put in extra effort: I disagree. This doesn't seem to be a problem at other jobs. Some people simply try more or put in the extra effort. They also generally enjoy better chances for promotion, good references, and so on.
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The tax money would be spent on nukes, not public services.
You really shouldn't believe whatever you hear: whoever told you that grossly misinformed you. Even if we assume that "spent on nukes" is hyperbole for "spent on the military", the military is 16% of the federal budget, absolutely dwarfed by the rest of the budget (which mostly consists of items fairly described as public services). And that's the federal budget alone: state taxes obviously don't even have _that_ sma…
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You can generally return a product to an arbitrary store.
With a receipt from the same chain, yes. And on the receipt you always have both the with/without VAT prices listed. So when returning there should be no confusion. Still doesn't explain what the point would be to display $1.00 on a shelf, if I will be charged $1.10 at the register with VAT.
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#100> Tips are also handled differently in different states, but in New York, by law, they can be pooled and distributed only to “front of house” employees: those who work in the dining room, like waiters, bartenders and backwaiters (formerly known as busboys). That really makes no sense to me. When I go to a restaurant, I value the food a lot more than the service. I've come back again to restaurants where I hated the s…
For example when I was a waiter we made $2.13 an hour. Kitchen staff were usually in the $10-$15 range and many of them got overtime.
Tipping is just a way for owners to increase profits by passing more cost to the customer.