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Re: AWS announces new region in Canada

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Post by mcrae » Fri, Dec 09, 2016, 5:19 AM UTC

I wonder how they are coming up with the region names? Most are cities (Sao Paolo, Frankfurt), some are countries (Ireland), some regions (N. Virginia, Oregon).

This new region is unique in that is does not refer to an actual place, and that the name alone is not descriptive (in the AWS console, it says just "Central" in the header).

Re: AWS announces new region in Canada

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Post by discodave » Fri, Dec 09, 2016, 5:24 AM UTC

mcrae wrote: post #91

I wonder how they are coming up with the region names? Most are cities (Sao Paolo, Frankfurt), some are countries (Ireland), some regions (N. Virginia, Oregon). This new region is unique in that is does not refer to an actual place, and that the name alone is not descriptive (in the AWS console, it says just "Central" in the header).

Maybe it's just in case Quebec secedes. ;)

In all seriousness I can see AWS eventually having to put multiple regions in some countries because the x province doesn't trust the y province.

Re: AWS announces new region in Canada

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Post by discodave » Fri, Dec 09, 2016, 5:34 AM UTC

smashed wrote: post #76

count wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

FWIW, it's not 'a data center'. It's at least 3 a few miles apart from each other. They might (probably do) still end up in Montreal, depending on where those city/county limits lie.

According to [1] it seems there are 2 az. 1: https://aws.amazon.com/about-aws/global-infrastructure/

S3, Dynamo and some other servicea always have three AZs, sometimes they only expose 2 EC2 AZs to save money in new/small regions. James Hamilton just announced that they were going to stop doing this but I guess this region was already under construction.

Re: AWS announces new region in Canada

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Post by olalonde » Fri, Dec 09, 2016, 5:53 AM UTC

metaloha wrote: post #64

When did Montreal become "central" Canada? Why didn't Amazon call it Canada East instead?

Not sure why you were down voted, I was born and raised in Montreal and was also surprised by this, especially given that the US regions seem to refer to time zones. I am guessing it's possibly for marketing reasons, calling it "central" might help get more customers both in the east and west. Calling it "east" could mean anything from Toronto to the maritimes.

Re: AWS announces new region in Canada

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Post by mthoms » Fri, Dec 09, 2016, 5:59 AM UTC

kahnpro wrote: post #71

metaloha wrote: post #64

When did Montreal become "central" Canada? Why didn't Amazon call it Canada East instead?

Because it _is_ central Canada? The Atlantic provinces are Canada East.

You say that so definitively. Like anyone is stupid to even question it. But the Central Canada thing is merely a historical artifact and has no real basis in, well you know, actual geographic location.

Quebec actually extends farther east than all other provinces (except Newfoundland). In other words, it's farther east than 3 out 4 so called "Atlantic" or "Eastern" provinces.

Re: AWS announces new region in Canada

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Post by mynameisvlad » Fri, Dec 09, 2016, 6:01 AM UTC

Spooky23 wrote: post #85

mynameisvlad wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Unless you mandate specific configuration controls, most office installations make it easy to accidentally save data to the public OneDrive offering.

Okay, sure, you may need extra configuration. But parent said "can't".

Re: AWS announces new region in Canada

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Post by mthoms » Fri, Dec 09, 2016, 6:04 AM UTC

cmrdporcupine wrote: post #89

skylan_q wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As far as I've ever known, Ontario and Quebec are central Canada.

Growing up in Alberta, people often referred to Ontario/QC as "out east" and "down east." My brother still does that. And many people there seem unable to make a proper distinction between eastern and central Canada economically or politically too.

In my experience, Ontario and Quebec are colloquially referred to as "Out East" or "Eastern Provinces" while the Atlantic provinces are referred to more often as "The Maritimes" or the "East Coast".

Re: AWS announces new region in Canada

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Post by mthoms » Fri, Dec 09, 2016, 6:07 AM UTC

skylan_q wrote: post #65

metaloha wrote: post #64

When did Montreal become "central" Canada? Why didn't Amazon call it Canada East instead?

As far as I've ever known, Ontario and Quebec are central Canada.

I'm curious - where did you grow up?

Growing up in Ontario I remember always being told we were in "Eastern Canada".

Re: AWS announces new region in Canada

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Post by sudhirj » Fri, Dec 09, 2016, 6:56 AM UTC

discodave wrote: post #93

smashed wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

According to [1] it seems there are 2 az. 1: https://aws.amazon.com/about-aws/global-infrastructure/

S3, Dynamo and some other servicea always have three AZs, sometimes they only expose 2 EC2 AZs to save money in new/small regions. James Hamilton just announced that they were going to stop doing this but I guess this region was already under construction.

Aurora requires 3 as well, in order to establish quorum for leader elections in case of network partitions.

Re: AWS announces new region in Canada

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Post by alfredxing » Fri, Dec 09, 2016, 7:12 AM UTC

skylan_q wrote: post #65

metaloha wrote: post #64

When did Montreal become "central" Canada? Why didn't Amazon call it Canada East instead?

As far as I've ever known, Ontario and Quebec are central Canada.

Ontario/Quebec are definitely commonly called "East" out here in Vancouver. The Maritimes are, well, the Maritimes. Central usually means the prairies.