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Steve Jobs, circa 2020: "Thoughts on country roads"

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Re: Steve Jobs, circa 2020: "Thoughts on country roads"

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Post by skorgu »

whatusername wrote: post #71
skorgu wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All 'cars' are compromises. Any low-riding sports car would be damaged by riding on a rutted road, that's the tradeoff inherent in purchasing one. Lotus (say) isn't saying you can't drive here or there, they just build cars that happen not to be suitable for a given activity. A passable analogy since car manufacturers have far less ongoing control might be Lotus voiding the warranty for your Elise if you took it on a…

But If I want to ruin my iCar (say by putting it in a blender) then I should be able to. That can void the warranty, but I shouldn't be physically stopped from doing it. Another car analogy (which cuts both ways) I can think of is the Nissan GTR -- it has a speed limiter built in that stops you going over a certain speed on normal roads -- but then when you are on a racetrack all limits are off.

You can't be physically stopped from jailbreaking your iwhatever either. Apple would probably like to prevent that from happening but they haven't spent nearly as much effort in the system design as say Sony did with the PS3 or BluRay towards making it difficult.

You have three choices: Buy Apple and color within the lines. Buy Apple and jailbreak, lose stability in favor of features. Buy Android.

Frankly I find it difficult to muster much outrage over Jobs' tyrannical jihad against openness (or whatever) when there are so many available alternatives. Many people are quite content with a walled garden approach; castigating Apple for taking their money seems backwards.

Re: Steve Jobs, circa 2020: "Thoughts on country roads"

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Post by CamperBob »

pohl wrote: post #87
CamperBob wrote: post #70

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What's more melodramatic than a company like Apple being afraid of an app like Scratch?

While your post has the superficial form that a retort might have, that word doesn't mean what you think it means... Melodrama: (noun) a sensational dramatic piece with exaggerated characters and exciting events intended to appeal to the emotions. Language, behavior, or events that resemble drama of this kind.

If you don't see Jobs's writings on the subject as emotionally overwrought appeals ("We have to keep our platform pure to protect you, our loyal user!"), we'll have to agree to disagree.

This is exactly like a "Won't somebody think of the children?" appeal. What else do you call it when the company rejects both a programming tool and a dictionary for "bad language?"

Re: Steve Jobs, circa 2020: "Thoughts on country roads"

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Post by pohl »

CamperBob wrote: post #92
pohl wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While your post has the superficial form that a retort might have, that word doesn't mean what you think it means... Melodrama: (noun) a sensational dramatic piece with exaggerated characters and exciting events intended to appeal to the emotions. Language, behavior, or events that resemble drama of this kind.

If you don't see Jobs's writings on the subject as emotionally overwrought appeals ("We have to keep our platform pure to protect you , our loyal user!"), we'll have to agree to disagree. This is exactly like a "Won't somebody think of the children?" appeal. What else do you call it when the company rejects both a programming tool and a dictionary for "bad language?"

"We have to keep our platform pure to protect you, our loyal user!"

If you want to make a case that they are making emotionally overwrought appeals, you should have the decency to provide a direct quote to make your case. Abusing quotations marks by putting them around your own subjective interpretation just tells me that you've got nothing to offer.

Re: Steve Jobs, circa 2020: "Thoughts on country roads"

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Post by CamperBob »

pohl wrote: post #93
CamperBob wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you don't see Jobs's writings on the subject as emotionally overwrought appeals ("We have to keep our platform pure to protect you , our loyal user!"), we'll have to agree to disagree. This is exactly like a "Won't somebody think of the children?" appeal. What else do you call it when the company rejects both a programming tool and a dictionary for "bad language?"

"We have to keep our platform pure to protect you, our loyal user!" If you want to make a case that they are making emotionally overwrought appeals, you should have the decency to provide a direct quote to make your case. Abusing quotations marks by putting them around your own subjective interpretation just tells me that you've got nothing to offer.

If I were being paid to make a formal argument, perhaps you'd be correct. As it is, I think you know very well what's meant, and that it is an accurate paraphrasing of Jobs's words in light of his actions.

Re: Steve Jobs, circa 2020: "Thoughts on country roads"

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Post by pohl »

CamperBob wrote: post #94
pohl wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"We have to keep our platform pure to protect you, our loyal user!" If you want to make a case that they are making emotionally overwrought appeals, you should have the decency to provide a direct quote to make your case. Abusing quotations marks by putting them around your own subjective interpretation just tells me that you've got nothing to offer.

If I were being paid to make a formal argument, perhaps you'd be correct. As it is, I think you know very well what's meant, and that it is an accurate paraphrasing of Jobs's words in light of his actions.

I think it's a common way haters lampoon it, but I think it shows poor comprehension of the message.
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