Still isn't enough for me to pull my sites off DO. Plus, DO don't have a reputation for treating staff like absolute dogshit.
Amazon LightSail: Simple Virtual Private Servers on AWS
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Re: Amazon LightSail: Simple Virtual Private Servers on AWS
#92Earlier quoted context omitted.
Right but one of those 3 (linode) has been pretty brutally hacked (a number of times, at the control plane level) while DO & AWS have a different security story.
True, but that is a little exaggerated. Yes, they were hacked in the past (over a year ago); one of their small data centers went down. Their US East center has been solid for the past 8 months that I have been using, no hiccups.
But they were hacked and didn't tell anyone for 6-8 mo even though they knew. So you don't really know they aren't deeply compromised now?
Then the ddoss and offline hosts. it's basically just amateur hour over there.
Re: Amazon LightSail: Simple Virtual Private Servers on AWS
#93Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah the LightSail pricing doesn't look attractive at all. $40 if you need to get 2 cores - and dual core really should help with anything non-trivial.
I was hoping their pricing is competitive at least if not better given they are so late to this I just need one VPS market.
Isn't that what ec2 was 10 years ago?
Re: Amazon LightSail: Simple Virtual Private Servers on AWS
#94Just to be clear: This service is offered by Amazon/AWS themselves, it isn't a third party. That's a question I had when I first clicked, which is why I am answering it here. One big "gotcha" for AWS newbies which I cannot tell if this addresses: Does this set or allow the user to set a cost ceiling? AWS have offered billing alerts since forever. They'll also occasionally refund unexpected expenses (one time thing).…
Isn't $80 for a 2-core processor a bit high especially if they are competing with Digital Ocean?
Re: Amazon LightSail: Simple Virtual Private Servers on AWS
#95Just to be clear: This service is offered by Amazon/AWS themselves, it isn't a third party. That's a question I had when I first clicked, which is why I am answering it here. One big "gotcha" for AWS newbies which I cannot tell if this addresses: Does this set or allow the user to set a cost ceiling? AWS have offered billing alerts since forever. They'll also occasionally refund unexpected expenses (one time thing).…
Can you use one of those top-up VISA cards? That you put so much money on, Do you need to be tied to a bank account?
Re: Amazon LightSail: Simple Virtual Private Servers on AWS
#96Not terribly impressed. It's like Digital Ocean and Vultr but with no IPv6 and no direct network interface.
What I love about VPSes as opposed to AWS, Azure, or Google is that you get a completely a la carte box with a direct interface right to the Internet and both IPv4 and an IPv6 /64. You can instantly provision "servers" that you can do anything you want with -- you can treat them like "pets" to run a personal blog or a legacy app, or you can herd them like "cattle" with your favorite management and provisioning tools. The pricing is great and the infrastructure is mix and match.
Many VPS providers (Vultr and I think DO as well) will even let you upload and install an ISO directly onto the KVM instance over the web. That means you can install OpenBSD or even weird OSes. I've heard of people putting wacky stuff like OS/2 in the cloud this way. Some even allow nested virtualization.
A VPS is ideal for a large number of common work loads, but not all. For things where I want to make extensive use of AWS's managed services or where I want to have something more akin to a private data center, EC2 and similar offerings from Microsoft and Google are great. But for those I want the whole enchilada. If I'm going there I want everything the EC2 management console and API gives me including full-blown VPC, etc.
This seems to occupy an uncanny valley. Without IPv6, direct networking, etc. it's a crummy VPS, but it's not as rich as EC2. The only pluses I see are direct access to AWS services (but if I want that I probably want EC2) and AWS's security and uptime "guarantees."
Problem with the latter is that it's largely marketing. I've routinely clocked 300-day-plus uptimes on Digital Ocean and I've also had EC2 instances mysterious die or go into a coma. They might have something to say on security, but I've never seen any real proof that AWS security is intrinsically superior to their competition. Neither DO nor Vultr has had a recent major breach AFIAK and they all seem to use the same virtualization tech.
Re: Amazon LightSail: Simple Virtual Private Servers on AWS
#97Earlier quoted context omitted.
Also, if you have a Static IP attached to the VPS and you first Stop, and then Destroy your instance, you will need to make sure you "free" the IP as well to avoid _small_ 0.005/hr price. From FAQ: > What do Lightsail static IPs cost? > They're free in Lightsail, as long as you are using them! You don't pay for a static IP if it is attached to an instance. Public IPs are a scarce resource and Lightsail is committed t…
> $0.005/hour That's $3.60/month... seems similar to mail-in rebates—many people forget, and accidentally give Amazon some (mostly) free money. Also, from later in this thread: > FWIW, bandwidth overages at Linode and DO are $0.02 per GB, LightSail is $0.09. It's these seemingly-tiny (but not-so-tiny when I'm running 60-70 VPSes) costs that kill when you get your first bill after a large traffic event.
It's not exactly free money because Amazon will surely reserve that IP for your use at any time. By sitting on Static IPs you are using AWS resources. Yes, operationally it costs them nothing, but there is an opportunity cost.
Re: Amazon LightSail: Simple Virtual Private Servers on AWS
#98Just to be clear: This service is offered by Amazon/AWS themselves, it isn't a third party. That's a question I had when I first clicked, which is why I am answering it here. One big "gotcha" for AWS newbies which I cannot tell if this addresses: Does this set or allow the user to set a cost ceiling? AWS have offered billing alerts since forever. They'll also occasionally refund unexpected expenses (one time thing).…
Can you use one of those top-up VISA cards? That you put so much money on, Do you need to be tied to a bank account?
Amazon usually bill in arrears (no idea about Lightsail). In the general case even, it doesn't matter. What you owe Amazon is independent of whether your card allows the charge or not. You can run out of top-up VISA card credit but you may still end up owing Amazon money.
This applies to any other provider, too. What you owe the provider is what you contracted to pay the provider (eg. by consuming services, or clicking the "upgrade" button in a web interface). It is independent of them actually taking the money.
Re: Amazon LightSail: Simple Virtual Private Servers on AWS
#99My guess is Amazon wants to rope people into their ecosystem, and they've recognized that many startups have opted for the cheaper VPS providers in their bootstrap days. This is an intriguing move and one that I'm sure DigitalOcean, Linode, and Vultr have been fearing may happen. The pricing is on par with these alternatives in the VPS space.
Digital Ocean's pricing has remained the same since 2013.
It'd be nice if they bumped the $20 plan to 3GB RAM (or go full Linode at 4GB)
Re: Amazon LightSail: Simple Virtual Private Servers on AWS
#100I can almost feel the pucker over at DigitalOcean, Linode, etc. It may not be a better product, but that doesn't necessarily matter, given the brand power.