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2016 Retina MacBook Pro Caveats

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Re: 2016 Retina MacBook Pro Caveats

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It's for charging only. This seems to be a huge disadvantage to USB-c... you have to buy different cables for different purposes, even though they have the same physical connector. Can you imagine if AC power had the same plug for both 110V and 220V? And you just had to "guess" which one was the right one?

They do? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEC_60320 That's a common problem with power supplies that require setting a hard switch to choose between 110V and 220V.

Yep, I bought some fun electronic bench gear, on the back it says validate the 110/220/240 setting prior to use.

On that note, always look on the back for a manual switch. Just to be safe. Its unlikely a regular consumer would need to but I'm learning to change my habits.

Re: 2016 Retina MacBook Pro Caveats

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Following the lead of Spacemacs I remapped Esc in vim to "fd". It works surprisingly well and is extremely easy and fast to type.

I use jk to exit from insert mode, but you still need an escape key to cancel actions when entering commands. For example if I type :wq and decide I actually don't want to quit, I still need to hit Esc to cancel. It would be nice if :wqjk (or :wqfd) would allow you to cancel but I don't think that's possible is it?

very possible! :cnoremap jk

Re: 2016 Retina MacBook Pro Caveats

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I have a fully loaded 15" arriving on Monday. If I cannot connect it to my beloved Dell P2715Q at 4K@60hz, I'm sending it back. This is clownstickery at its finest.

Hopefully I can save you some frustration. If you got the TB2 dongle, it won't work. Apple suggests you purchase a third party DisplayPort dongle. Make sure it's DisplayPort 1.2 (that's what lets you do 4k@60Hz). No advice on what to buy though; except check the reviews to make sure it works on the 2016 MBP! (_NOT_ the MacBook! Compatibility with the MacBook means nothing.)

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Re: 2016 Retina MacBook Pro Caveats

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We bought a 15" 2016 Macbook Pro ("Retina" is redundant; there are no 2016 MBPs that lack a Retina display.) We also bought a LG 27UD88-W monitor to go with it. (It's one of the few that has a USB-C input.) I have to say, I'm really impressed by the single-cable solution. The monitor charges the laptop (57W maximum, which is less than the Apple charger, but "good enough"), and the laptop sends both video and USB peri…

As to 3: the reason is cost. If you are using a cable with your power adapter, you are only using it for charging. To use a USB-C 3.1 cable for that is wasteful because it costs double what the charging/USB2 cable alone would cost.

And yeah, it is going to confuse a lot of people.

Re: 2016 Retina MacBook Pro Caveats

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fyi Control-C = Esc in vim. So the new mac without real esc key just means leaning to do control-c vs. esc if u can't stand the virtual esc key.

and is not 100% the same because the former sends a signal and other details.

Because I like to use too, I have just remapped it to in all modes.

Re: 2016 Retina MacBook Pro Caveats

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Not supporting DisplayPort with an adapter is just insane. Apple's new top-end laptop is incompatible with the most common way to connect external monitors? I've been willing to give Apple and the new MBP the benefit of the doubt on this stuff, and in particular I don't mind that it needs dongles now if that means we get universal USB-C adoption faster. But the dongles need to actually exist and work now!

My understanding is that it's specifically the thunderbolt-2 adapter that doesn't support further adapting to other alternate mode mechanisms. This might be because of incompatibilities between TB2 and TB3/USB3.1 alternate mode implementations? It doesn't mean it can't do DP over a specific type-c to DP cable/dongle, which presumably are or will be a thing (eg: https://store.google.com/product/usb_type_c_to_displaypo…

If you have an existing Thunderbolt dock, you can use the 3-to-2 adapter, and just plug the DisplayPort monitor into the other Thunderbolt port on the dock. I do not know why this works, but it does.

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It supports DisplayPort but not with a Thunderbolt 2 adapter

Ok, so I'm confused. Why would you want to use DP with ThunderBolt 2? Is this only for 4k monitors?

Thunderbolt normally supports multiple protocols over the same plug/cable. The Thunderbolt 2 port on my old MBP is where you plug in the monitor. Thunderbolt 2 matters, because that comes with DisplayPort 1.2 support, which is necessary for 4k@60Hz.

Re: 2016 Retina MacBook Pro Caveats

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We bought a 15" 2016 Macbook Pro ("Retina" is redundant; there are no 2016 MBPs that lack a Retina display.) We also bought a LG 27UD88-W monitor to go with it. (It's one of the few that has a USB-C input.) I have to say, I'm really impressed by the single-cable solution. The monitor charges the laptop (57W maximum, which is less than the Apple charger, but "good enough"), and the laptop sends both video and USB peri…

What happens if you accidentally plug in your charging cable when it's already being charged from the monitor?

I read that it chooses the power source with the highest charge rate

Re: 2016 Retina MacBook Pro Caveats

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What happens if you accidentally plug in your charging cable when it's already being charged from the monitor?

I read that it chooses the power source with the highest charge rate

This is correct. There's no harm.
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