The Phase 1 effects remind me of the first time I got behind the wheel of a car immediately after playing GTA. I was barely able to drive because I was afraid of doing something stupid.
Post Virtual Reality Sadness
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> [...] predict that enormous amounts of computing power will be available in the future. Let us suppose for a moment that these predictions are correct. This bit is seems little bit strange to me in that it's actually not necessary at all[1]... a simulation runs on its "own timescale", i.e. it doesn't actually matter how fast/slowly the simulator runs -- the simulation still experiences time advancing at the proverb…
> a trivial rehashing of solipsism Solipsism doesn't seem to quite fit. Like, sure, you're a brain in a jar in this scenario... but there are a lot of other brains sharing the jar with you, too. Solipsism inherently requires a singular existence rather than a communal one.
Ah, but as a brain-in-a-vat how could you distinguish other brains telling you things from the simulation just telling you what you want (or don't want) to hear? As long as we posit the "simulation" it doesn't really matter.
EDIT: Pithyness. Solipsism is fun, isn't it? :)
EDIT#2: I didn't mean to dismiss your point preemptively. I actually think it might be interesting to explore whether there could be (in principle) such a thing a shared-yet-simulated reality without succumbing to the solipsism argument. I don't think it's possible, but I'm not a philosopher. Incidentally physics has a similar problem. If you're interested, look up Boltzmann Brains and the "Arrow of Time".
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A few years ago I started reading "The Wheel of Time" by Robert Jordan. I had somehow timed it so that the week I finished the thirteenth book "Towers of Midnight" the fourteenth book "A Memory of Light" came out. I blew through the first chunk of the book and then got to a chapter that was over a hundred pages long, maybe even longer, Google says it was over fifty thousand words. It was the last battle, the moment t…
Wouldn't it be cool if there were written multiple endings for the story? One is randomly selected when you start reading, and you won't know which one! Would that bring back the excitement? Oddly I think it wouldn't, and wonder why. Is it because we want to know the one single ending the author intended?
No, it wouldn't be a good thing. Stories are works of both art and engineering, and neither of those fields have much room for random outcomes.
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#94Earlier quoted context omitted.
A few years ago I started reading "The Wheel of Time" by Robert Jordan. I had somehow timed it so that the week I finished the thirteenth book "Towers of Midnight" the fourteenth book "A Memory of Light" came out. I blew through the first chunk of the book and then got to a chapter that was over a hundred pages long, maybe even longer, Google says it was over fifty thousand words. It was the last battle, the moment t…
This is one advantage of A Song of Ice and Fire (a.k.a. Game of Thrones). At the rate the books are being written the series will never finish in our lifetimes. I can only hope we perfect cyberbrain technology soon so George R. R. Martin can finish the work, typing out a single line per day or so.
People said that about Robert Jordan too, then he got sick and the mantle passed to another, faster author.
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#95I wonder if the author has ever experienced the joy of reading a good book, or the first showing an amazing movie. Finishing an amazing story, you feel a let down afterwords; the characters were not real and you can never interact with them. The realm of fictional worlds are often more engaging, and seem superior to the world you live your day-to-day life in. The actions and experiences in those stories were more ful…
Yeah I was going to add that I get sad after a good book or tv show or film or video games but reading the article it seems to talk about a much more debilitating effects related to the increased immersion from VR. I think it warrants some closer study specifically because it reminds me of that scene from Inception, where people prefer their VR life over their own and end up like junkies in an opium den. If you look…
Sounds like the HyperNormalisation[0] will only get worse
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#96All I could think while reading this is its exactly how you feel after coming down from LSD.
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#97Question if anyone could answer (thank you)
Is VR experience is expected to be something very new , I mean for example when u do something new like play a video game or sport you experience something new , is VR experience is something similar ? OR is it trying to mimic the natural behavior (like feeling of hitting the ball when playing a sport )
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I get like this with my favorite things. I do it less frequently than I did as a child, but I still do. It's silly I guess. The last book I did this with was "Permutation City" by Greg Egan. There's probably less than an hour's worth of reading left, but I just don't want it to end. This was maybe a year ago and I still haven't touched it since. Eventually I'll probably re-read it from the beginning and actually fini…
Egan's becoming a better author over time, though. Permutation City is a relatively early novel... but I hope you'll look at the others as well, if you haven't already. I think my favorite has to be Schild's Ladder, just for sheer conceptual interestingness. I ended up writing fanfiction for it. The best one from a literary standpoint is probably the Clockwork Rocket trilogy, though.
I'm definitely excited to read more by Egan, and already own a few of his other works. I just tend to binge on sci-fi and haven't been in that mood since, well, not-finishing Permutation City.
I originally bought Permutation City because of a recommendation on HN. Schild's Ladder might have to be my next sci-fi read for the same reason. "Sheer conceptual interestingness" is pretty much exactly what I want, haha.
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#99I haven't experienced that effect myself, but i don't have a rig. I can't help but think of waking up from really intense dreams. Perhaps like those fever dreams when a little bit sick. My mind accepts the reality it's making up, and it's very intense. Perhaps fun, perhaps frightening as the generation drifts over to nightmare territory.
I understand what others are saying about books, but really vivid dreams seem like a closer match. You can't control a book, in a dream there's still some agency, some action that can change everything.
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#100This is very interesting to read. I personally had an experience that increased my anxiety by using the video app Whirligig. It has a cinema mode that puts you in a room, but off to the left there's just a dark, open space. After reading House of Leaves I found myself really creeped out by the dark, open void that existed to my left, and found that feeling followed me for several hours after leaving virtual reality.…
Hah, I just finished House of Leaves based on a recommendation from a friend, and I totally understand. I didn't really enjoy the book, but it was so pervasively creepy I had a hard time reading it, and often felt extremely uncomfortable at home alone after a reading session.