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Re: Dash for iOS is now open source

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Oh, lord, I hate to be That Guy, but it looks like Bogdan has included an older version of Gus Mueller's FMDB library " rel="nofollow">https://github.com/ccgus/fmdb> but has failed to include a copy of the MIT License that governs them. Probably just an oversight, but...

You obviously love to be That Guy, otherwise you would have notified Bogdan via an issue tracker or in private, wouldn't you.

Re: Dash for iOS is now open source

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Nice that he did opensourced it. I personally never understood why this tool was so popular to start off with though. I often found myself using the original doc sites instead.

Offline mode for me, mainly, but that also makes reading documentation for the sake of it more enjoyable and practical. I'd casually flip through classes and methods just because they were easy to get to.

Re: Dash for iOS is now open source

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Doesn't this give the option for someone else to package it together, give it a new name, and then offer it for free on the App Store? If so, that could be a way around.

No, because you can't distribute GPLv3 licensed apps on the iOS App Store (the Store imposes restrictions that the GPL doesn't let you impose).

This I never understood, GPL doesn't allow you to impose the restrictions the app store requires, right?

Can't you just supply every user with a second copy of the software, which they are allowed to use under the GPL freedoms?

Specifically, you get one copy from the app store that is restricted by Apple's license. You cannot install it on other devices, it doesn't give you the right to the source code, etc.. Apple is satisfied.

Then you get another copy from the developer. It is compiled, but unsigned. You also get the source. You are free to install it on other devices [1]. GPL is satisfied because the person who recieved the first binary gets a binary they can run, and redistribute (although it is cumbersome and they have to sign it etc. to install - but again [1]). They also get the source.

Wouldn't this work?

[1] If this other devices allows it technically and legally - this restriction always applies. This is also the case if you have a GPL application that needs features from Windows Professional, but you only have a Home license. That doesn't mean you can't distribute the app under GPL.

Re: Dash for iOS is now open source

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No, because you can't distribute GPLv3 licensed apps on the iOS App Store (the Store imposes restrictions that the GPL doesn't let you impose).

This I never understood, GPL doesn't allow you to impose the restrictions the app store requires, right? Can't you just supply every user with a second copy of the software, which they are allowed to use under the GPL freedoms? Specifically, you get one copy from the app store that is restricted by Apple's license. You cannot install it on other devices, it doesn't give you the right to the source code, etc.. Apple i…

You can do that if you're the copyright owner of all the code (or have some kind of CLA granting your licensing rights). Then you can distribute the app under one license on the App Store and under the GPL somewhere else.

But if you're the "someone else" who just got the code with the GPL license from the original devs, you can't redistribute it under any other license, hence the impossibility of putting it on the App Store.

Re: Dash for iOS is now open source

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This I never understood, GPL doesn't allow you to impose the restrictions the app store requires, right? Can't you just supply every user with a second copy of the software, which they are allowed to use under the GPL freedoms? Specifically, you get one copy from the app store that is restricted by Apple's license. You cannot install it on other devices, it doesn't give you the right to the source code, etc.. Apple i…

You can do that if you're the copyright owner of all the code (or have some kind of CLA granting your licensing rights). Then you can distribute the app under one license on the App Store and under the GPL somewhere else. But if you're the "someone else" who just got the code with the GPL license from the original devs, you can't redistribute it under any other license, hence the impossibility of putting it on the Ap…

Thats not what I mean. You are not the copyright owner, you take it (under GPL terms) and upload it to the App store. The uploaded version is restricted, as per Apples terms. Users do not yet have the rights you need to grant them according to the GPL. You fulfill your obligations, granting these rights, in the next step.

Then, outside of the App store, you give everybody an additional copy. The GPL is satisfied, since the user gets to distribute the binary, and gets the source.

You are not distributing it separately under two licenses, but at the same time over two channels.

It's like you have a locked-down computer in a high security room, and I want to send you a program. "A" enforces the security of the room and while you can download stuff to the computer, you can't copy stuff from it. "G" supplies the software to me, and says I can give it to other people, as long as I allow them to have the source and pass it on under the same terms. I would say you can satisfy both at the same time by giving the customer an additional copy at the same instant, say on a USB drive.

Re: Dash for iOS is now open source

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You can do that if you're the copyright owner of all the code (or have some kind of CLA granting your licensing rights). Then you can distribute the app under one license on the App Store and under the GPL somewhere else. But if you're the "someone else" who just got the code with the GPL license from the original devs, you can't redistribute it under any other license, hence the impossibility of putting it on the Ap…

Thats not what I mean. You are not the copyright owner, you take it (under GPL terms) and upload it to the App store. The uploaded version is restricted, as per Apples terms. Users do not yet have the rights you need to grant them according to the GPL. You fulfill your obligations, granting these rights, in the next step. Then, outside of the App store, you give everybody an additional copy. The GPL is satisfied, sin…

Ah, well, with the huge caveat that IANAL, I don't think that can work here. Maybe if the only right was the access and distribution of the source, but one of the GPL Four Freedoms is "The freedom to run the program as you wish, for any purpose", and the App Store terms restrict that.

Re: Dash for iOS is now open source

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> That is not an excuse. I can understand why Apple went forward, Mind explaining it to us, I don't understand Apple's reasoning here after they said to him to send them the blog post.

He ran his mouth one more time.

Between sending out the blog post draft and Apple speaking to the press? Can you link me to that please, just curious.
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