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Visual Studio Code 1.7

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Re: Visual Studio Code 1.7

#91

Post by Devagamster »

sxg wrote: post #54
komali2 wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The biggest thing for me has been the consistency. They already had an amazing IDE (Visual Studio), then they buckled down and made an amazing paired-down version (VSCode). It works well, does all the things I'd want and then some. Compare to Google releasing a chat client / message handler (google voice app), another one (hangouts), taking away functionality (removing shared sms/hangouts convos), then releasing two…

What about the Surface Book?

the surface book is getting there but it still crashes occasionally when disconnecting the screen. not build quality per se but definitely not apple-like

Re: Visual Studio Code 1.7

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Post by JBiserkov »

sxg wrote: post #54
komali2 wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The biggest thing for me has been the consistency. They already had an amazing IDE (Visual Studio), then they buckled down and made an amazing paired-down version (VSCode). It works well, does all the things I'd want and then some. Compare to Google releasing a chat client / message handler (google voice app), another one (hangouts), taking away functionality (removing shared sms/hangouts convos), then releasing two…

What about the Surface Book?

Or the Surface Pro for that matter.

Re: Visual Studio Code 1.7

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Post by dflock »

overcast wrote: post #65

Dear Microsoft, PLEASE native SFTP sync support. I will switch from Sublime permanently.

I see requests for this a lot. Is there a reason not to just do this at the OS level, with FUSE (sshfs) or GVFS or something - then it'll just work everywhere?

I can't see why every editor should be implementing filesystem stuff?

Re: Visual Studio Code 1.7

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Post by barrkel »

Philipp__ wrote: post #64
divbit wrote: post #27

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>But you know, I can't hang Emacs and Vim on the wall and leave them there. I never got the hang of Emacs, but there is a decent vim extension (there are a bunch) called vimStyle which at least gets you the vim-like code navigation.

I had really hard time for 3 months (after using vim for 4 years). I just uninstalled everything else, and first week was painful, but it was really fun since I wanted to learn Lisp/Scheme, so I touched ELisp while playing/tweaking with emacs. After that I just couldn't go back to Vim. I started tweaking and digging. The point of Emacs is that you can make it be whatever you want. It can be both amazingly ugly and be…

Hmm. Emacs' indentation is one of the things I've had to fight hardest. It's extremely opinionated, and it's almost always wrong for each new language I teach it about, and it took a lot of convincing to indent C and Java the way I want.

The way it defaulted to using smart fill (i.e. use indent div 8 tabs followed by indent mod 8 spaces), so that indentation had this mix of indent and spaces, gah.

It's bad enough that I wrote my own plain non-smart auto-indent (just replicate indent of previous line) to get by in modes I couldn't convince to be sane.

The fact that there is no real unification for your preferred indentation step is really telling. I have a big block configuring c-basic-offset, js-indent-level, css-indent-offset, etc. - a big random bag of different variables that affect different subsets of language modes, depending on their lineage.

Re: Visual Studio Code 1.7

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Post by gosukiwi »

codycraven wrote: post #25
Philipp__ wrote: post #3

Microsoft and TypeScript team are doing amazing work with this editor! There are so many interesting features in it, gave it a shot few weeks ago and was really satisfied. And it is probably the first electron app that didn't feel like rest of the bunch, that are pretty much hogs and not very responsive (especially when we talk about editors and IDEs). But you know, I can't hang Emacs and Vim on the wall and leave th…

I've been using the Vim extension for quite a while and it's become fairly robust. I think it bests jVi in Netbeans.

Does it support visual block mode now?

Re: Visual Studio Code 1.7

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Post by richie5um »

Pharylon wrote: post #52

I recently started doing more and more javascript font-end work as opposed to C# backend stuff. So, of course, I started with Atom. But I kept having issues with it, and ended up playing around with VS Code and loving it. As someone who really loves the C# language, I was really questioning if I liked VS Code just because it was Microsoft. Was I some kind of Microsoft fanboy? I'm glad to see a lot of the "front end"…

Don't worry about that. It really is that good. [Long-time Mac and Vim user.]

Re: Visual Studio Code 1.7

#97

Post by james-mcelwain »

barrkel wrote: post #94
Philipp__ wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I had really hard time for 3 months (after using vim for 4 years). I just uninstalled everything else, and first week was painful, but it was really fun since I wanted to learn Lisp/Scheme, so I touched ELisp while playing/tweaking with emacs. After that I just couldn't go back to Vim. I started tweaking and digging. The point of Emacs is that you can make it be whatever you want. It can be both amazingly ugly and be…

Hmm. Emacs' indentation is one of the things I've had to fight hardest. It's extremely opinionated, and it's almost always wrong for each new language I teach it about, and it took a lot of convincing to indent C and Java the way I want. The way it defaulted to using smart fill (i.e. use indent div 8 tabs followed by indent mod 8 spaces), so that indentation had this mix of indent and spaces, gah. It's bad enough tha…

I use Emacs for languages I work continuously in and have strong (or am forming) opinions about. Willing to invest 1-2 hrs configuring. Save it in a git repo.

Not everyone share's preferences (tabs, spaces, etc.) across languages. Maybe I'm crazy but I use 2 vs 4 in different languages.

If I'm just trying a language out for the first time, I find it much easier to use vscode + vim plugin + language plugin to try something out.

Re: Visual Studio Code 1.7

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Post by Scuds »

komali2 wrote: post #47
TillE wrote: post #36

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I have no idea why anyone would prefer VS Code for C++ or C#/.NET work on Windows. For everything else, Visual Studio has never been particularly great.

I think a strong pull for it is its node debugger. At least for me. I'm not building giant C++ libraries (or however you C/C++/C# folks do) so it's just the right weight for what I do. Last time I tried to install Visual Studio it was like 9gbs for the core.

VS 15 let you pare that down upon initial install. A services dev doesn't need a WPF or Winforms editor.

Re: Visual Studio Code 1.7

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Post by legohead »

I'm going to have to rate this as "probably never going to work". I really wanted it to succeed, because I actually like Microsoft and want a new editor, but the pure amount of ignorance this thing began with and continues to display is just too much.

* Didn't launch with tabs, a plugin system, or code folding

* Still no Projects or Workspace. You can open a "Folder", which behaves like a workspace, but you can only have one open at a time.

* When you search/find-in-files, it uses the left UI element, which is just dumb for search in code as you can only see about 20 characters per line. Yeah you can expand the window, but do you want to do that every time?

* Can't drag the UI elements and attach them somewhere else, which is a common staple of modern GUIs. This would fix the search "problem"

* No support for FTP or SSH as far as I can tell (I do see an extension or two)

When it wasn't launched with tabs, I gave it the benefit of the doubt thinking they were just releasing something Alpha to get a feel for the market. But they consistently can't put out common sense, modern day features. I feel like a couple guys at MS got bored and decided to randomly work on an editor without researching what is great about other editors first.

Sorry for the harshness of this post, I'm just disappointed, and love code editors.

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