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Internet Attack Spreads, Disrupting Major Websites

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Re: Internet Attack Spreads, Disrupting Major Websites

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Post by stcredzero »

traskjd wrote: post #68
gamegod wrote: post #45

Irony alert: > "But technology providers in the United States could suffer blowback. As Dyn fell under recurring attacks on Friday, Mr. York, the chief strategist, said such assaults were the reason so many companies are pushing at least parts of their infrastructure to cloud computing networks, to decentralize their systems and make them harder to attack." Pushing your infrastructure to cloud computing is not decent…

Interestingly, in some ways this is a big selling point of AWS/Azure/Goog. The absolute scale they can handle is way up there. The downside of course, is that whilst their infrastructure can likely handle it, handling the bill associated with 'just scale up your service' could be worse than the attack itself.

If Azure and Google would like to gain a competitive advantage over AWS, then I would suggest this: Build out a suite of tools for fighting DDOS. Enable private consultants and companies to provide this as a service. Do this in such a way, that cloud customers save money and have to worry about less. Hell, let companies jump in structured as insurance companies! Also bring in cooperation with law enforcement and use data gathering to catch and prosecute DDOS-ers.

Re: Internet Attack Spreads, Disrupting Major Websites

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Post by [deleted] »

eternalban wrote: post #84
cm2187 wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also what amazed me is that he would casually threaten to strike Russia. It seems that no one considers these attacks as an act of war. But that's what they are.

NATO's new position as of July 2016: http://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/topics_78170.htm In July 2016, Allies reaffirmed NATO’s defensive mandate and recognised cyberspace as a domain of operations in which NATO must defend itself as effectively as it does in the air, on land and at sea. The technical verbiage used is "domain of operations" and "security domain". This article says that "massive" cyber attacks can lead…

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Post by fowlerpower »

scrollaway wrote: post #81
fowlerpower wrote: post #71

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Your making a lot of assumptions about me. I am an immigrant from a country that has had suffered very severely from war. The point is not to let these guys do whatever they want. Go into Ukraine, kill UN volunteers in Syria. Let them become emboldened by different types of attacks and tomorrow we will have the type of war your talking about. Handle these problems now that they are small. Edit: I wanted to add that i…

Well, yes, I'm making assumptions and I even highlighted them. Now if you tell me you've seen in person what war does to people and you're calling for round 2 with two superpowers, I don't believe you. If, on the other hand, you're saying that the Russia situation needs to be solved sooner rather than later, you'll have a hard time finding somebody who disagrees but that shouldn't come at the cost of the entire plane…

A few things, I am not attacking your position against war. I am saying that Russia needs to be dealt with and it needs to happen sooner rather than later.

I am not advocating for war but I am saying that when dealing with things like this you have to prepare for the worst. There is one superpower here not two. You cannot let them do what they want and there has been real innocent bloodshed already because of Putins actions and positions.

I think we are closer in our line of thinking than it seems. I have a family and I would never advocate to end life on this planet. I am zealous about letting someone like Putin go with zero punishment because history has shown us time and time again where that will take us.

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Post by tptacek »

cm2187 wrote: post #33
msane wrote: post #27

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Hopefully it's not related threats about hacking during the election. Remember that recently Biden openly threatened cyber attack on Russia if they make any attempt to tamper with the election. Which is completely unprecedented, as is the notion that DOD is openly saying Russia was behind DNC and other attacks.

Also what amazed me is that he would casually threaten to strike Russia. It seems that no one considers these attacks as an act of war. But that's what they are.

If that's what they are, why aren't we already at war with Russia?

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Post by scrollaway »

fowlerpower wrote: post #95
scrollaway wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, yes, I'm making assumptions and I even highlighted them. Now if you tell me you've seen in person what war does to people and you're calling for round 2 with two superpowers, I don't believe you. If, on the other hand, you're saying that the Russia situation needs to be solved sooner rather than later, you'll have a hard time finding somebody who disagrees but that shouldn't come at the cost of the entire plane…

A few things, I am not attacking your position against war. I am saying that Russia needs to be dealt with and it needs to happen sooner rather than later. I am not advocating for war but I am saying that when dealing with things like this you have to prepare for the worst. There is one superpower here not two. You cannot let them do what they want and there has been real innocent bloodshed already because of Putins…

> I am not advocating for war

Like I said, you won't find anyone who disagrees (not here anyway), but you gotta know people are arguing with you because you are, in fact, in your other posts, advocating for war - even if you didn't intend to.

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Post by fowlerpower »

duaneb wrote: post #80
fowlerpower wrote: post #79

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Really? Right after he hit Poland? That would have been the smartest move the world could have done and you would have had much less bloodshed than you did. You would have prevented the holocaust prevented the destruction of most of Europe. But you keep telling yourself that.

This is so much easier to say if you're not a historian. "What if" scenarios are invaluable. You might as well say we should have killed him. Easier said than done!

I realize I sound like Captain Hindsight here. But.

The thing is that I think we don't need to repeat histories mistakes.

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Post by cpr »

meowface wrote: post #36
cm2187 wrote: post #33

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Also what amazed me is that he would casually threaten to strike Russia. It seems that no one considers these attacks as an act of war. But that's what they are.

It's espionage, not necessarily an act of war. The US government is threatening to strike back with more espionage. (If they haven't already...)

Hillary specifically promised to treat a cyberattack with all possible responses including military.

This woman is dangerous.

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Post by codedokode »

Jerry2 wrote: post #88
codedokode wrote: post #83

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Would not disconnecting a cable from Russia or installing a firewall be a cheaper solution?

Their next move would be disconnecting the US. http://www.hisutton.com/Yantar.html What then?

I remember reading the same about american submarines installing unknown devices on underwater cables.
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