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Re: Kodak Ektra

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Post by Endy »

soared wrote: post #68
simonsarris wrote: post #2

Their "Specs" link at the bottom 404s! Ow. Much more info in this blog post: http://www.kodak.com/US/en/Consumer/Press_Center/KODAK_EKTRA... KODAK EKTRA Smartphone key features: * ANDROID 6.0 (Marshmallow) * Professional results from a 21MP fast focus camera sensor with F2.0, PDAF, OIS, Dual LED Flash * 13MP phase detection auto focus front-facing camera with F2.2 PDAF * Helio X20 2.3GHz Decacore processor with 3GB R…

I was pretty interested in this, but $550 seems to steep. What is that price point supposed to compete with? To low for iphone/pixel, too high for many other android phones.

I think it's meant to compete with Kodak DSLR cameras.

Re: Kodak Ektra

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Post by unicornporn »

Argh... For a second or two I thought to myself: perhaps this camera phone will have a lens with a sane focal length!

But nope, massive wide angle at 26.5mm equiv once again. How about an actual general purpose lens at 35mm (or above 35mm) equiv for once? Some of the older iPhones were around 33mm if i recall things correctly, but all the (one lens) iPhones that now supports shooting DNG are stuck with a ~28mm lens.

/Frustrated photographer

Re: Kodak Ektra

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Post by astrocat »

There's a missed opportunity here... this is not a smartphone, because as a phone, it will suck. It's a smartcamera, because as a point-and-shoot running Android with a cellular data connection, it will probably be quite cool. As mentioned already, Nokia tried the "photography first" smartphonecamera - it didn't fly. Because, honestly, iPhones are already top of the line smartphonecameras. The cameras are ridiculously good, all things considered. Kodak should realize there's no point in attempting to get people to trade in their iPhone for one of these - they should focus on making this the other accessory you want to have in addition to your iPhone. Like a Kindle. You CAN read stuff on your phone, but there's a better experience to be had. You CAN take pictures and video on your phone but... there's a better experience to be had? Maybe. I'm not entirely convinced the same kind of value can be added at a price that's worth paying before just up and getting a DSLR. But, that's my take on this whole thing.

Re: Kodak Ektra

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Post by cabbeer »

paulgerhardt wrote: post #89

I absolutely love these platforms for travel. I have a similar model (a Panasonic/Leica Android phone). It has a very large sensor and sim tray. As result I can run a local sim in WiFi hotspot mode for my primary iPhone and still get great photos with a 2-in-1 device. The photo quality is fantastic and it beats having to carry a small mirrorless camera around. Being able to run Photoshop Lightroom right on the device…

Unfortunately, most reviewers agreed that the Hasselblad camera is not much more than a "proof of concept", and the photo quality from the phone itself is often better.

Re: Kodak Ektra

#95

Post by joshmn »

Talk about desperate.

Why didn't they just skip the phone part? I could see myself buying one of these. But the fact that it'd make little (financial) sense to buy one and then have it replace my phone (let's be real here, Kodak), it's a no-go.

Re: Kodak Ektra

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Post by ozgung »

exelius wrote: post #10

Didn't Nokia try this already? I'm pretty sure the camera world has settled into two kinds of cameras: cell phones for people who just need to take a few snaps, and DSLRs for people who need more features than can possibly fit in a cameraphone (flash hotshoe, changeable lenses, larger sensor, etc). DSLRs are cheap enough that cost isn't really an issue. I doubt the results here will be any better than Nokia had.

This can be the third product category. Samsung also had similar products like galaxy s4 zoom but it was looking like a plastic and bulky point-and-shoot camera. I really like the design and build of this Kodak camera and I am ready to replace both my DSLR and my phone with something like this. Of course it has to be a decent smartphone and the camera must be superior to any other smartphone cameras.

Re: Kodak Ektra

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Post by jdmichal »

astrocat wrote: post #93

There's a missed opportunity here... this is not a smartphone, because as a phone, it will suck. It's a smartcamera, because as a point-and-shoot running Android with a cellular data connection, it will probably be quite cool. As mentioned already, Nokia tried the "photography first" smartphonecamera - it didn't fly. Because, honestly, iPhones are already top of the line smartphonecameras. The cameras are ridiculousl…

To add to your sentiment, I have a Sony camera that can:

* Wirelessly transfer images to my phone.

* Do so with a tap, as it has an embedded NFC tag. (Sets up a wifi-direct connection.)

* Be remotely controlled by my phone, including a laggy but usable viewfinder display on my phone screen.

Cameras that are phone accessories already exist, and they're pretty cool.

Re: Kodak Ektra

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Post by TD-Linux »

unicornporn wrote: post #92

Argh... For a second or two I thought to myself: perhaps this camera phone will have a lens with a sane focal length! But nope, massive wide angle at 26.5mm equiv once again. How about an actual general purpose lens at 35mm (or above 35mm) equiv for once? Some of the older iPhones were around 33mm if i recall things correctly, but all the (one lens) iPhones that now supports shooting DNG are stuck with a ~28mm lens.…

Yeah, it seems to be a pretty high-end but otherwise standard smartphone camera. Almost all of the features they advertise are of the software or related peripherals, but not of the lens or sensor itself.

Re: Kodak Ektra

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Post by noahmbarr »

astrocat wrote: post #93

There's a missed opportunity here... this is not a smartphone, because as a phone, it will suck. It's a smartcamera, because as a point-and-shoot running Android with a cellular data connection, it will probably be quite cool. As mentioned already, Nokia tried the "photography first" smartphonecamera - it didn't fly. Because, honestly, iPhones are already top of the line smartphonecameras. The cameras are ridiculousl…

You have to applaud Kodak for taking a risk.

If the camera functionality is that much better, some customer segment might be compelled. It's hard to say until the product is available.

Future iPhone customers will benefit from this product release. If it's at all better, you better believe this will only push Apple's camera engineering team harder.

Re: Kodak Ektra

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Post by marincounty »

astrocat wrote: post #93

There's a missed opportunity here... this is not a smartphone, because as a phone, it will suck. It's a smartcamera, because as a point-and-shoot running Android with a cellular data connection, it will probably be quite cool. As mentioned already, Nokia tried the "photography first" smartphonecamera - it didn't fly. Because, honestly, iPhones are already top of the line smartphonecameras. The cameras are ridiculousl…

"Nokia tried the "photography first" smart camera - it did't fly"

That was a while ago. Nokia did a horrid job marketing that 40 megapixel phone. Plus, it was a point in history where, people including myself, thought it was just a marketing ploy.

I'm still not sure I would trade any phone for my Canon, with L primes, but the pictures off my IPhone 4 astonish me, especially the macro pictures. (That phone isn't even active. I just use it to take pictures.)

I used to be one of those guys who thought the good pictures off any phone camera were just luck. I'm changing my opinion yearly.

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