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The iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus Review: Iterating on a Flagship

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Re: The iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus Review: Iterating on a Flagship

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Is anyone making different decisions based on the headphone jack? After a steady upgrade cadence since iPhone 1, this is the first time I've postponed my decision, still deciding how to proceed. Google is making the right moves but I'm not sure how much it can help them. Pixel is an excellent product, but you need a crowbar to pry people out of a well worn and comfortable habits.

Moved on to wireless (2nd gen Zik Parrots, there are better wireless headphones out there, but I like those and wont buy 3 because the changes are minimal. Waiting for them to put out a Zik 4).

Don't you pay a double lossy compression penalty?

1). .mp3 or .aac throws away data

2). Transmitting over bluetooth recompesses and throws away more data

I think in principle Apple could avoid one of these with AirPods if the the iPhone7 streamed .aac/.mp3 as a custom Bluetooth codec, but I haven't heard if they wen that route.

Re: The iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus Review: Iterating on a Flagship

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Hardware feature table mentions WiFi, but not the LTE modem and radio which is far more important as LTE has to deal with skyscrapers and buildings with stone and steel which conveniently block LTE signals, population density, and spectrum consumption has been dramatically increasing year to year. The unit has the Qualcomm X12 modem but that modem doesn't cover AWS-3 (Band 66) which is a very large swath of spectrum,…

Or maybe they are not testing these kind of things, because proper testing of important aspects like signal reception and voice quality would require complicated test setups and expensive equipment.

One could do a "subjective" review by carrying around both a iPhone 6s+ and 7+ on Verizon Network (best case conditions) in NYC or other city with skyscrapers and population density and comparing signal, making voice calls, checking download speeds, etc.

Re: The iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus Review: Iterating on a Flagship

#93
post #84

Hardware feature table mentions WiFi, but not the LTE modem and radio which is far more important as LTE has to deal with skyscrapers and buildings with stone and steel which conveniently block LTE signals, population density, and spectrum consumption has been dramatically increasing year to year. The unit has the Qualcomm X12 modem but that modem doesn't cover AWS-3 (Band 66) which is a very large swath of spectrum,…

Thank you! This is the kind of detail I would have expected from AnandTech. It's a bit disappointing that they'll use the great teardown work provided by iFixit and Chipworks but not capitalize on it by actually analyzing the guts of the phone.

They used to do deep dive the on chip architecture too. I guess now that anand is no longer there maybe their mission has changed.

Re: The iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus Review: Iterating on a Flagship

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post #90
post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That reads like a comment on an Apple fansite. 1. For the same price as an iMac, you can buy a 4k display and way, way more powerful CPU, graphics and storage. 2. The superiority of the MacBook Pro is a myth, now more than ever. There are plenty of laptops today with much higher resolution and better color reproduction, and of course, Skylakes and recent GPUs. Dell XPS, Precisions, Surface Books, high-end Thinkpads,…

The missing piece in other laptops, as always, is not raw specs, but build quality, and things like a great trackpad. No one else seems to be able to nail trackpads. I really wish I could buy a different brand of laptop, but I've been spoiled by the MBP's trackpad.

This. The trackpad is just about the only thing keeping me on apple hardware these days, but it's a much bigger deal to me than I'd have ever expected. It seems they are the only company that can figure out how make a mobile pointing device that doesn't make me want to throw the computer at a wall.

Re: The iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus Review: Iterating on a Flagship

#95
post #16

I am surprised cell phones are still selling for 650 bucks. You can get a Chinese cell phone for 200 dollars which will do 90% of what latest apple or Samsung will do. Maybe it will be a little bit slower, but not 450 dollars slower.

For me I'm paying the premium for a number of reasons, mainly Apple's stance on privacy and security. You'll be hard pressed to find the same security and privacy commitment from any manufacturer of Android or other competing devices.

Apple was more than willing to give up one of their users when it benefited them:

https://www.engadget.com/2016/07/21/kickasstorrents-apple-fa...

Android is open source. You can get rid of all the google bits if you really want to.

Re: The iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus Review: Iterating on a Flagship

#96

Hardware feature table mentions WiFi, but not the LTE modem and radio which is far more important as LTE has to deal with skyscrapers and buildings with stone and steel which conveniently block LTE signals, population density, and spectrum consumption has been dramatically increasing year to year. The unit has the Qualcomm X12 modem but that modem doesn't cover AWS-3 (Band 66) which is a very large swath of spectrum,…

Get off your high horse. They clearly said they are doing a deep dive review and that if you were after details like this you should wait for that review.

Re: The iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus Review: Iterating on a Flagship

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post #96

Hardware feature table mentions WiFi, but not the LTE modem and radio which is far more important as LTE has to deal with skyscrapers and buildings with stone and steel which conveniently block LTE signals, population density, and spectrum consumption has been dramatically increasing year to year. The unit has the Qualcomm X12 modem but that modem doesn't cover AWS-3 (Band 66) which is a very large swath of spectrum,…

Get off your high horse. They clearly said they are doing a deep dive review and that if you were after details like this you should wait for that review.

> "Today’s review of the iPhone 7 is just that, a review of the phone. Meanwhile we’ll be publishing a deep dive article later this month on A10, Hurricane, A10’s GPU, wide color gamut photography, and the rest of those fine architectural details that we like to dig into."

He said the review is a review of the phone. That includes voice and signal quality. His hardware table doesn't even mention the LTE modem and radio while mentioning the WiFi standards.

Re: The iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus Review: Iterating on a Flagship

#98
post #55

I returned my 7+ as it's barely any different to the 6S+, and at £719 here in the UK for the 32GB model it was hard to stomach. £819 for 128GB model is now almost Macbook territory in my mind. I had barely any free space on the 32GB model, and using an adaptor for my headphones was annoying. The camera was good though. A 64GB 6S+ is a much better proposition to me and will be my daily driver until I find something be…

6S+ is my favorite phone I have ever had, but the only feature I want is the waterproofing...

Re: The iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus Review: Iterating on a Flagship

#99
post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be fair, the Pixel is a horrible value, as it doesn't seem to be as significantly better than what it's replacing relative to the significant increase in price.

Is the price difference that significant? To me, the difference between a $1000 phone and a $400 is less than $1 per day (I keep my phones for 24 months). A buck a day is something I can afford and am willing to pay it for even a modestly better phone. I would guess a lot of HN readers are in a similar position. I wish Google would have come out with something much better even if it would have been more expensive tha…

$600 is a vacation, or more than a week's pay after taxes for me. Why would I pay $600 extra for a phone that isn't that much better? Just because you can doesn't mean you should.

Hell, $600 can feed a family of four for several weeks.

Re: The iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus Review: Iterating on a Flagship

#100
post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Probably, but his point was about that ecosystem (iPhone or all?) becoming a wallet garden, and it did become one (sounds like he was referring to the phone one)

None of Apple's platforms became a walled garden. iOS is more open than it was at first release when there was no SDK and the only sanctioned development method was web apps. OS X/macOS has acquired an optional walled garden app store but has otherwise only become more restricted for security reasons, and those restrictions can be disabled by the user. None of the predictions of doom have come to pass. Users have com…

Wait, doesn't the newest version of OS X remove the option to install applications that aren't from App Store or Certified developers?

You can still enable the option through console, but the UI option is gone.

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