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CIA ‘Siren Servers’ can predict social uprisings 3-5 days in advance

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Re: CIA ‘Siren Servers’ can predict social uprisings 3-5 days in advance

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post #68

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How is a social uprising in Tunisia more likely to spread to the UK or Canada than the USA?

They're saying that Tunisian movements are unlikely to spread to the US, but movements in the UK/Canada can spread to the US.

Thanks, that makes more sense.

Re: CIA ‘Siren Servers’ can predict social uprisings 3-5 days in advance

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I was personally in Western Tunisia (on the Algerian border) as the Tunisian uprising, the first of the Arab Spring, began. I was there a month. The protests were in full swing for weeks in every village in the west before anything hit western media. No travel warnings or any of that backdated pretend bureaucracy. I very much doubt the CIA had much of an idea what was going on outside the capital. The only western pr…

A more effective strategy to constant surveillance is to simply raise the background level to just below actionable threshold, so that way their intelligence is effectively useless. That is, really, you should just sit around all day and talk about how you dislike what they're doing, think they're career criminals betraying the nation, that you want to actively do something about it, etc. Bonus points for mixing that…

And then start an actual riot by mistake?

Re: CIA ‘Siren Servers’ can predict social uprisings 3-5 days in advance

#93
post #39

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The Chinese were far from being genuinely offended, they were more than happy with the parts of the spontaneously disassembled F-117A. Probably they even helped to make the new artificial lake afterwards.

What on earth are you talking about?

The Chinese got a complete crashed F117 during the NATO bombing.

Re: CIA ‘Siren Servers’ can predict social uprisings 3-5 days in advance

#94
A siren server is the biggest and best computer on a network. Whoever has the most powerful computer would be the most powerful person, whether they plan to be or not

That makes no sense. It's not even wrong, it's a bunch of words strung together that don't mean anything.

Re: CIA ‘Siren Servers’ can predict social uprisings 3-5 days in advance

#95
post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A more effective strategy to constant surveillance is to simply raise the background level to just below actionable threshold, so that way their intelligence is effectively useless. That is, really, you should just sit around all day and talk about how you dislike what they're doing, think they're career criminals betraying the nation, that you want to actively do something about it, etc. Bonus points for mixing that…

And then start an actual riot by mistake?

I mean, the whole point of that strategy is to provide statistical cover to prevent the detection of forming riots (or attacks) ahead of their actual nucleation and rioting (or attack). Effectively, you give the appearance of spontaneous formation of riots out of a near-rioting background, even though the actual formation still takes coordination ahead of time, by simply having a lot of times you don't actually plan a riot, you just say all the words to (preferably to random people).

So I wouldn't call it 'by mistake', more like 'by design'.

Re: CIA ‘Siren Servers’ can predict social uprisings 3-5 days in advance

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Sure it is and without sarcasm. Even when you do not post anything here then reading what is posted influences you toward certain target. Perhaps you get more interested in Javascript for example or most probably, startups. The question is not in this. The question is in the scale of the operation and actual spread of the influence.

HN is big and people spend a decent amount of time on it.

Still it is minuscule compared to some real large scale operations.

Re: CIA ‘Siren Servers’ can predict social uprisings 3-5 days in advance

#97
post #93

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What on earth are you talking about?

The Chinese got a complete crashed F117 during the NATO bombing.

So are you saying that the embassy was bombed to stop the transfer of F117 parts? Because that will need a source

Re: CIA ‘Siren Servers’ can predict social uprisings 3-5 days in advance

#98
post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Chinese got a complete crashed F117 during the NATO bombing.

So are you saying that the embassy was bombed to stop the transfer of F117 parts? Because that will need a source

There were various related rumors circulating at the time. You can draw your own conclusions but please allow others to share what is only available as oral history.

My personal favorite (heard in Beijing in the early 2000s) was the story that the Chinese military were monitoring the newly deployed American stealth fighters during the Belgrade bombing and had managed to get radar lock on one (or more) of the F-117As from their embassy. The Americans, the story goes, wanted no more of this and bombed the Chinese embassy.

According to The Font of all Knowledge [0] three Chinese "reporters" were killed in what the CIA admitted was its own bombing operation. It has long been common knowledge that the Chinese government uses the Xinhua news agency as a cover for clandestine operatives [1].

True or false, it'still an inventive rumor.

[0] (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_bombing_of_the...) [1] (http://www.nytimes.com/2000/02/20/world/in-watching-hong-kon...)

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