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N.S.A. Contractor Arrested in Possible New Theft of Secrets

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For purposes of discussion, let's say he did take the data to leak. I'm honestly curious as to the response. From everything out there, nothing he took had been used for anything beyond espionage and counter-espionage in the manner that any sane person assumed was happening. Finding a motive (unless he planned to sell it, which I haven't seen any indication of, and would wildly change the story) seems tough. Was he really just taking it to leak, being a radical transparency advocate? Why just this?

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John Schindler (former NSA counterintelligence officer) called this back in August: http://observer.com/2016/08/the-real-russian-mole-inside-nsa... This would explain how the Russians ended up with the source code for TAO's toys.

He is one of the worst personalities on twitter. For someone who could perhaps add a lot to the discussion his contributions frequently boils down to "I know better than [you or some other person] and so I don't have to explain [some insulting thing he said about someone]."

Nature of the twitter beast. You can't actually educate or do much more than say, "read any of the 20 articles I've written on the subject" in 140 characters. And there are a lot of people who are very wrong about the sorts of things he talks about.

He knows his stuff. And he's dismissive and rude. The former forgives the latter, for me.

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Want to see something really scary??? Here's his house: https://www.google.com/maps/place/7+Harvard+Rd,+Glen+Burnie,...

Whatever the reason, makes me wonder why would anyone try to do this. I mean, I know where it is - I can drive there and take a picture if I wanted to. But bluring out one particular house on a normal street is kind of like the story (I believe from one of the Sherlock Holmes books) about a guard telling the detective about all of the town, apart from one house, where he hid the body.

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Want to see something really scary??? Here's his house: https://www.google.com/maps/place/7+Harvard+Rd,+Glen+Burnie,...

Whatever the reason, makes me wonder why would anyone try to do this. I mean, I know where it is - I can drive there and take a picture if I wanted to. But bluring out one particular house on a normal street is kind of like the story (I believe from one of the Sherlock Holmes books) about a guard telling the detective about all of the town, apart from one house, where he hid the body.

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Want to see something really scary??? Here's his house: https://www.google.com/maps/place/7+Harvard+Rd,+Glen+Burnie,...

Not sure if you know this, but you can ask Google to blur a Street View address by filling out a form. I'd guess he did this himself versus any sort of conspiracy thing happening.

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I do agree that people will think that way, but it's actually not scarier. Giving the government the power it has, implies the government can basically do what ever it want. It has secret courts, secret arrests, and secret police. That is way more horrifying than the very small risk of being shot - which the numbers don't even fully support that it's getting worse, unjustified, or even preventable. I recommend the Th…

I don't think you can say what is scarier for another person.

What's the difference than someone saying it is scarier? This reasoning "only people who are X can say what it's like to be X" makes no logical sense.

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Nobody has managed to find any documents that passed through Clinton's email server that were labeled as classified, let alone Top Secret. (One or two documents had classified sections, which were labeled with small (c) marks. The document should have had big CLASSIFIED marks, but since it didn't, missing a (c) next to a paragraph is not an arrestable offense)

> Nobody has managed to find any documents labeled as classified, let alone Top Secret. Really? So you can just delete all the classification labels and send the document to a yahoo account. Look no labels, so it is fine? You better ask your friendly Security Officer about that (actually don't you'll be highly suspicious doing that). She had 10 or so TS/SCI satellite images in there. Other people would go to jail for…

The "just send work email there" bit seems highly inaccurate. It seems pretty clear that the intention was for this server to be used for unclassified communication. You can't even send email from a classified to an unclassified network without clearly marking it as such.

Now clearly it is at best highly naive to think that a server handling the kind of volume of email that the Secretary of State would receive, much of it from people handling classified information, is going to be able to stay 100% free of classified contamination.

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