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Re: Introducing a new kind of Wi-Fi system

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No. It comes with pretty much nothing but a nice little price break. You get a 3-pack for $299. The Eero 3-pack is $499.00. This is a serious price break in this market, which is currently over-priced. You can get 3 Ubiquities for almost $300. A lot less user friendly, but $500 for 3 units is holding back mass adoption. Personally, for my home I need just two units. Shame there's no $199 2-pack yet. It would be an in…

Ubiquiti's Amplifi is $199 for 3 units.

Amplifi has 3 models. The high end, the amplifi HD is $350 for a 3 pack

Re: Introducing a new kind of Wi-Fi system

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I had nothing but problems with typical consumer hardware. Having to restart routers all the time. Dead spots. When family would visit (both my wife and I have large families) they would connect at least 2 devices each to my wifi (tablet, phone, laptop, etc). My wireless would just tank. They would always ask me why my internet was so terrible. Last year I bought an Edge router and a higher end Netgear hotspot. Works…

Ubiquiti Unifi Access Points just work. I too have bought a variety of high end consumer devices (for a small business), and they all crash or randomly drop out. Disable wifi radio on router, plug in Unifi AP, solid connection. They are annoying to configure, but have been so worth it. Apple AirPort has also been rock solid.

Ubiquiti Unifi APs each require an Ethernet connection. They do not form a mesh network. That's the whole point of amplifi, and this new Google wifi product

Re: Introducing a new kind of Wi-Fi system

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I had nothing but problems with typical consumer hardware. Having to restart routers all the time. Dead spots. When family would visit (both my wife and I have large families) they would connect at least 2 devices each to my wifi (tablet, phone, laptop, etc). My wireless would just tank. They would always ask me why my internet was so terrible. Last year I bought an Edge router and a higher end Netgear hotspot. Works…

Ubiquiti Unifi Access Points just work. I too have bought a variety of high end consumer devices (for a small business), and they all crash or randomly drop out. Disable wifi radio on router, plug in Unifi AP, solid connection. They are annoying to configure, but have been so worth it. Apple AirPort has also been rock solid.

I have a Ubuquiti ERL3 with 2 AirPorts and a TimeCapsule. One I got them placed around the house in good spots I had no problems. I'm halfway hoping the Apple stuff will die or be outmoded soon so I can replace them with Ubiquiti Unifi Access Points. I have a Ubiquiti EdgeSwitch too and one of their cameras. Everything I've gotten from them has been rock-solid. The configuration isn't on an iOS app but the forums/community are great.

My office just upgraded to an ERL3 and Ubiquiti Unifi on my recommendation and there hasn't been a peep about internet problems since.

Re: Introducing a new kind of Wi-Fi system

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I used to have wifi issues, but then I bought one of the UniFi Long Range wifi models. I really can't imagine a house that would not be entirely serviced by a single one of those. I still get 3 bars on my iPhone 30 meters down my driveway, let alone in the house. I got one because we use them at work, and I was still getting usable internet in a supermarket 100 meters from my office across a parking lot. They are des…

UniFi LRs are really great, however I found it hard to get hold of the 5GHz ones.

UAP-AC-Lite and UAP-ACs and UAP-AC-LRs are available next-day-delivery from Amazon... I recently bought a UAP-AC-LR (to compare against my OnHub) and had it two days later via Prime.

They now even allow basic AP config via an Android/iOS app, so I didn't have to install the Java-based controller on a Windows box...

Re: Introducing a new kind of Wi-Fi system

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And you just got an email saying that OnHub and the new Wifi router use the same OnHub firmware, which presumably will be maintained at least until the Google This-Time-We're-Serious router comes out.

Do you have a link to this message?

https://support.google.com/onhub/answer/7168220

Re: Introducing a new kind of Wi-Fi system

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Lots of vendors already offer this. It's pretty standard for commercial WiFi units. It's just slightly more expensive than dumb routers. * Eero: https://eero.com/ * Ubuquiti: https://www.ubnt.com * Cisco: http://www.cisco.com (sized for larger buildings) Does this new Google device come with the Google Fi feature which backhauls all your traffic to Google via a VPN?

No. It comes with pretty much nothing but a nice little price break. You get a 3-pack for $299. The Eero 3-pack is $499.00. This is a serious price break in this market, which is currently over-priced. You can get 3 Ubiquities for almost $300. A lot less user friendly, but $500 for 3 units is holding back mass adoption. Personally, for my home I need just two units. Shame there's no $199 2-pack yet. It would be an in…

Buy the three pack and sell one?

Re: Introducing a new kind of Wi-Fi system

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Lots of vendors already offer this. It's pretty standard for commercial WiFi units. It's just slightly more expensive than dumb routers. * Eero: https://eero.com/ * Ubuquiti: https://www.ubnt.com * Cisco: http://www.cisco.com (sized for larger buildings) Does this new Google device come with the Google Fi feature which backhauls all your traffic to Google via a VPN?

Big shout-out for Eero (https://eero.com/), which is the best WiFi product I've ever used.

Re: Introducing a new kind of Wi-Fi system

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Apartments can have this issue - where I live there are 50+ access points visible and even with the router directly next to our streaming device I cannot stream Netflix HD (75 mbps plan with Comcast). edit Not saying that Google's system fixes this but some users require nicer routers for that connection. I should note my actual computer gets an ethernet because I can never achieve on wireless what I can on wired!

This wouldn't solve that problem. Switching to Ethernet or finding a free channel (good luck) is the only solution.

Deploying software support for dynamic transmit power control would help a ton without requiring more wired infrastructure or more spectrum, both of which tend to be extremely expensive. When your laptop is in the same room as the access point, there's no need to be transmitting loud enough to clobber your neighbor's traffic. See https://github.com/thuehn/Minstrel-Blues

Re: Introducing a new kind of Wi-Fi system

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Serious question: whose WiFi is not working, to the degree that they think, "I really need to get a modern router to make this Internet thing actually work." I'm seeing about a dozen fancy modern wifi routers all trying to solve a problem I'm not sure exists.

The number one "family tech support" question I get these days is "why doesn't my internet work?" Usually meaning it's too slow, drops out, or doesn't work in certain parts of the house. Often they've done something like adding a cheap "wireless repeater" expecting it to fix the problem, and just making it worse.

Anything that allows me to just say "go buy this" instead of having to troubleshoot their cheap ISP-provided combo access point/router is a win in my book....

Re: Introducing a new kind of Wi-Fi system

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Ubiquiti Unifi Access Points just work. I too have bought a variety of high end consumer devices (for a small business), and they all crash or randomly drop out. Disable wifi radio on router, plug in Unifi AP, solid connection. They are annoying to configure, but have been so worth it. Apple AirPort has also been rock solid.

Ubiquiti Unifi APs each require an Ethernet connection. They do not form a mesh network. That's the whole point of amplifi, and this new Google wifi product

Latest AC APs can't, but previous models all supported mesh networking.
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