Microsoft is in a bad shape, isn't it? So this is what we see when titans like MS, Google, Apple, etc. are falling. I expect even more coming...
Linux can’t be installed on a recent Lenovo laptop
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#92This was so predictable. And of course, the FSF called it: https://www.fsf.org/campaigns/secure-boot-vs-restricted-boot
> This was so predictable.
That Linux lacks drivers for something and Microsoft somehow got the blame for it as part of some grand conspiracy? Certainly predictable for /r/linux. I thought HN was better than that.
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#93Amazing how Lenovo managed to turn "Thinkpad", a respected and loved brand name, into shit within just a few years.
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#94Blatant anti-trust violation in several nations.
Microsoft has _repeatedly_ lost anti-trust lawsuits in the past 16 years for this exact sort of behavior. How is it that they have not learned their lesson?
Windows 10 is failing, and now they've taken actions which will surely incur billions of dollars in fines. I would not be at all surprised if the ruling judge in the inevitable lawsuit punishes them harshly for not learning their lesson the first several times.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_litigation
Whatever executives are responsible for this should be drawn and quartered by the investors.
And hardly anyone is talking about Lenovo's liability. They are just as guilty as Microsoft and they're a much smaller company, will this destroy them?
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#95Basically with DMCA still going on, if you manage to install linux you WILL be a criminal.
Freedom is a crime \o/
Computing is fun again
Re: Linux can’t be installed on a recent Lenovo laptop
#96Basically with DMCA still going on, if you manage to install linux you WILL be a criminal.
Freedom is a crime \o/
Computing is fun again
Re: Linux can’t be installed on a recent Lenovo laptop
#97Just out of curiosity, what's the rationale for MS & Lenovo to do this, why to risk PR? The number of people wanting to install Linux is marginal and they are already "on the wrong side".
What is this gibberish about being "on the wrong side"? Please don't make vacuous statements.
It is not gibberish. They put it in quotes to imply that it is not literally true that they are on the wrong side, but that for the purposes of Microsofts efforts they are on the wrong side in the sense that they are not Microsoft customers and are not likely to be swayed by this or anything else so they are not worth targeting for Microsoft.
So the only real outcome from this would at first glance appear to be to antagonise people who won't consider their product either way and cause bad PR.
The question is if there's any other/better rationale.
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#98Maybe someone can help me understanding. Why is it OK to lock down smartphones, TV devices, consoles, but not OK for PCs?
Something like tradition. The IBM PC has been an "open" system since the late 70's. Tablets etc (palmtops!) started appearing in the 90's, and were walled gardens from the get go.
IBM PC was made open by Compaq in 1981 not late 70's, IBM would rather had it closed as the Commodore, Spectrum, Atari, Amiga, Acorn, Mac were.
Re: Linux can’t be installed on a recent Lenovo laptop
#99Just out of curiosity, what's the rationale for MS & Lenovo to do this, why to risk PR? The number of people wanting to install Linux is marginal and they are already "on the wrong side".
It's certainly not the year of the Linux desktop, but it's not far off. I've successfully switched both parents to Linux and non tech at our company run completely on Linux. It's a real threat, especially with MS failing to innovate.
The year of linux is behind us.
Today in 2016, Linux is the superior platform for both user-friendliness and stability. It is easier to use and install on a wider variety of hardware. The old belief that Windows is "easier" is deprecated, and it is time to change the conversation to reflect that truth.
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#100Maybe someone can help me understanding. Why is it OK to lock down smartphones, TV devices, consoles, but not OK for PCs?
TVs, mobile phones and consoles didn't start their journeys are portable and free to modify devices as PCs did.
Neither did home computers (Personal Computers), only the IBM PC clones did thanks to Compaq and their reverse engineering process not being invalidated in court.