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Japan has a worrying number of virgins, government finds

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Re: Japan has a worrying number of virgins, government finds

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>It was a nation of profound evil. That's one perspective. Another is that Japan was merely doing what it felt was necessary to protect itself from interference by aggressive Western Imperial powers, and weren't necessarily more "evil" than any other empire at the time. A third is that the country that dropped two atomic bombs on civilian cities and firebombed Tokyo to the ground was no less evil than the empire they…

It boggles the mind to hear 10+ million civilian deaths and wartime atrocities in Asia described as being "merely one perspective". One can only assume that this individual believes Germany's concentration camps and what occurred therein were just "cultural relativism" and "propaganda" too and that Germany was "doing what it felt was necessary to protect itself".

>One can only assume that this individual believes Germany's concentration camps and what occurred therein were just "cultural relativism" and "propaganda" too and that Germany was "doing what it felt was necessary to protect itself".

One can only assume this individual didn't bother to read all the words I wrote before deciding they knew what I believe.

I specifically said I didn't subscribe to the views I enumerated, but those views certainly do exist. Personally, I think Imperial Japan was incredibly evil. I also think the atomic bombings were evil. Hell, many Japanese feel the atomic bombings were justified - and Japanese legislators contributed to the very peace constitution that "emasculated" them, because they felt (justifiably) betrayed by the Emperor's ambitions.

But since we're discussing the way Japan may view the atomic bombings and how that event affected Japan's culture, reducing that culture to the thought-terminating cliche of "profound evil" adds nothing to the discussion.

Re: Japan has a worrying number of virgins, government finds

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As opposed to Europe's solution, where they allow unrestricted immigration from volatile areas?

"Allow" Your alternative is to shoot them at the border, or film them while they drown at sea... and even that wouldn't work as well as you might hope. Just wait and see what the next few decades hold, it's going to make this recent wave of migration seem absolutely delightful by comparison. We've made the implicit choice to live our lives in such a way that the AGW is going to make the places like Northern Africa ut…

Life isn't fair.

Re: Japan has a worrying number of virgins, government finds

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"Allow" Your alternative is to shoot them at the border, or film them while they drown at sea... and even that wouldn't work as well as you might hope. Just wait and see what the next few decades hold, it's going to make this recent wave of migration seem absolutely delightful by comparison. We've made the implicit choice to live our lives in such a way that the AGW is going to make the places like Northern Africa ut…

Life isn't fair.

Remember that when you're wondering why millions of people don't care if you want them where you live or not, because like it or not, fair or not, you don't get a say in it.

It's just gong to happen to you, because life isn't fair.

Re: Japan has a worrying number of virgins, government finds

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Yeah, unprovoked? That belies a lack of historical perspective. Japan killed tens of millions of Chinese and intended to occupy the entire western Pacific, killing or enslaving all the people who lived there. The entire nation, all of its labor and industry, was bent toward this goal. It was a nation of profound evil.

>It was a nation of profound evil. That's one perspective. Another is that Japan was merely doing what it felt was necessary to protect itself from interference by aggressive Western Imperial powers, and weren't necessarily more "evil" than any other empire at the time. A third is that the country that dropped two atomic bombs on civilian cities and firebombed Tokyo to the ground was no less evil than the empire they…

When you hit the point where you're dropping plague-ridden fleas in bombs, you've lost even the semblance of a moral or practical argument.

Re: Japan has a worrying number of virgins, government finds

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Life isn't fair.

Remember that when you're wondering why millions of people don't care if you want them where you live or not, because like it or not, fair or not, you don't get a say in it. It's just gong to happen to you, because life isn't fair.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War

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Who is going to take care of the baby? Also, returning to work probably means no intention of having another baby any time soon.

If only there was an industry of trained professionals whose only job was taking care of children...

Children need to be taken care of by their biological mothers, specially during the first two years of their lives.

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Life isn't fair.

Remember that when you're wondering why millions of people don't care if you want them where you live or not, because like it or not, fair or not, you don't get a say in it. It's just gong to happen to you, because life isn't fair.

I get plenty of say, its called the american electoral process.

Re: Japan has a worrying number of virgins, government finds

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Remember that when you're wondering why millions of people don't care if you want them where you live or not, because like it or not, fair or not, you don't get a say in it. It's just gong to happen to you, because life isn't fair.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War

Yeah, how has that been working out for us? Other than losing money in a desert, what have we actually achieved?

If you want to stop the migration we're going to see in the coming decades, it won't be war, but wholesale slaughter. Frankly, that conflicts too strongly with our view of ourselves as good people.

Besides, war with whom? Tens of millions of people fleeing their homes? Are you going to go to war with migrants, or maybe you think bombing their homes a bit more will make them less likely to leave?

Re: Japan has a worrying number of virgins, government finds

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Remember that when you're wondering why millions of people don't care if you want them where you live or not, because like it or not, fair or not, you don't get a say in it. It's just gong to happen to you, because life isn't fair.

I get plenty of say, its called the american electoral process.

First of all I assumed that you were European, since the only migrants from the Middle East and Africa we're getting here (US) are the few we're intentionally letting in. We have an ocean between us and them, and Europe is in the way with a lot more to offer frankly.

If you're American, your original comment was referring to the US immigration policy? That would make that original comment seriously misguided.

As to the basic point however that you can somehow vote someone into power who's going to change the reality of how the world is turning out... ha. Ha ha. Unless you're voting for someone who's literally talking about shooting people at the border and letting them drown at sea, you're falling for someone's lies because you desperately want to believe them.

Then I'd ask why you're so desperate to believe them.

Re: Japan has a worrying number of virgins, government finds

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Yes, but virginity is an interesting part of the issue: > Around 42 percent of men and 44.2 percent of women admitted that they were virgins this seems quite high, although I haven't compared it to data from other countries. Are Japanese people having less sex? And if so, why?

I am not a Japan-expert but I remember seeing a documentary about young Japan couples renting sex-hotel rooms on hourly basis, because they have no other place to get intimate. It's quite hard to loose your virginity and get pregnant when your family is watching...

You are talking about love hotels. They are extremely common in Japan and they are really not a big deal. Almost all of them are perfectly clean and they are cheap as well (for Japanese standards); for less than the equivalent of $40 you can get a room.

People who are dating use them a lot. Because flats are usually quite small, it is sometimes more convenient to spend the night in a love hotel than going home. Married couples use love hotels from time to time in order to be able to make sex without having to worry about the noise, or about a kid interrupting.

The most important for Japanese society is convenience! ;)

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