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Comma.ai will ship a $999 autonomous driving add-on by the end of this year

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Re: Comma.ai will ship a $999 autonomous driving add-on by the end of this year

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Anyone seen the programming challenge on the comma.ai website: http://geohot.com/projective_challenge.tar.gz

"In the pics directory, you'll find 5 short "videos" with 10 frames each of driving the same set of road. Different cars, different mountings, etc...

Your goal, write a program to localize them all with respect to each other in 3 space.

Deliver a 3-D map of the location and orientation of all pictures."

Very cool!

Re: Comma.ai will ship a $999 autonomous driving add-on by the end of this year

#93

Some thoughts in no particular order, edited from an IRC discussion I just had on this: The price is extremely low. If you drive just 20 minutes per day, and your time is worth at least minimum wage, it makes sense to buy this for just a year, and hopefully it lasts longer than that. But there is a monthly subscription cost ($300 per year) i didn't factor in. And wtf, since when does hardware have a subscription cost…

Most accidents cost nowhere near $10 million. Hell, the 9/11 payouts only averaged $1.7 mil.

Re: Comma.ai will ship a $999 autonomous driving add-on by the end of this year

#94
post #68

Wouldn't touch this with a 30 foot pole. Hopefully sane legislation will prevail and end this madness soon.

That's what we need is the government involved. They'll solve everything.

They have solved everything in Scandinavia. They've just about solved black vs white racism too. Yes, go look it up.

Re: Comma.ai will ship a $999 autonomous driving add-on by the end of this year

#95
post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They mentioned the car has to have built in radar already.

What car has built in radar? I'd love to get one and have it repeatedly send out radar pulses so cops think I'm going 200MPH.

Nearly every car maker offers it as a $2,000 to $5,000 technology/driver assistance package.

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#96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What car has built in radar? I'd love to get one and have it repeatedly send out radar pulses so cops think I'm going 200MPH.

Nearly every car maker offers it as a $2,000 to $5,000 technology/driver assistance package.

Cool, now I can drive safely and probably mess with radar systems.

Re: Comma.ai will ship a $999 autonomous driving add-on by the end of this year

#97
post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not saying their solution is perfect. Nothing is. But will I send a hate mail to utensil factory because I cut myself with their kitchen knife? No, I won't.

There is a gulf of a difference between saying 'nothing is perfect' and therfore excusing crap - and making a reliable safe product. That difference is engineering, and we undervalue it at our peril.

Do you think comma.ai is undervaluing it? Do you think they don't know that they will be under an irrational microscope the second they release an MVP?

Re: Comma.ai will ship a $999 autonomous driving add-on by the end of this year

#98
post #67

Mountain View to San Francisco Is this product actually just limited to driving 280 / 101? If so, that's a really interesting way to launch a minimum viable product in the self-driving space: Obviously you can't launch with anything incomplete in terms of safety, but you can launch with a highly restricted supported geography.

I think he just used that as an example of what types of journeys can be driven. What mostly bothers me about this is his disregard to whether someone dies or not using the product. But hey, as long as they're shipping this year, under $1000, that's all that matters right? I've read their paper and it's solid ML research, he's got a few good guys on the team. And I don't really disagree about MobilEye. But there are…

It's silly to be throwing out dire warnings about Comma's product without first going after Tesla. With a level 2 system, whether it works 90% of the time, or 99.9% of the time, the driver has still got to watch the road and be ready to respond in an instant. In fact, the less reliable the system is, the less there is the likelihood that a driver will entrust their life to it when they shouldn't.

Re: Comma.ai will ship a $999 autonomous driving add-on by the end of this year

#99

Some thoughts in no particular order, edited from an IRC discussion I just had on this: The price is extremely low. If you drive just 20 minutes per day, and your time is worth at least minimum wage, it makes sense to buy this for just a year, and hopefully it lasts longer than that. But there is a monthly subscription cost ($300 per year) i didn't factor in. And wtf, since when does hardware have a subscription cost…

> And wtf, since when does hardware have a subscription cost

Well there is a pretty important software component and I'd guess that this allows them to fund ongoing development of that and give you regular updates (this is a pretty early version so I'd imagine at least monthly software updates after purchase).

> Wouldn't you need like multiple gpus to process all this camera data in real time

Hotz demoed an early prototype on the road in Nevada to a reporter months ago that was wired up to a single Ubuntu-Linux powered laptop if I remember correctly so I'm assuming probably just 1 integrated GPU required.

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