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Re: YouTube's road to HTTPS

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> Today we added YouTube to Google's HTTPS transparency report. We're proud to announce that in the last two years, we steadily rolled out encryption using HTTPS to 97 percent of YouTube's traffic.

What's the point of the report if you only add things that are already in good shape?

Re: YouTube's road to HTTPS

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If your ISP applies artificial traffic shaping, your ISP is broken.

What the ISP is doing isn't any different than what any private network could do. If YouTube can not handle that, Youtube is not playing well with standard network practices and is broken at a technical level. Your ISP doing traffic shaping is a question of if they should, not a technical question.

In this case, that's what "broken" means. Not that there is something technically wrong, but that they are doing things that they shouldn't.

Re: YouTube's road to HTTPS

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> It's not surveillance that's the big problem for static content. Why would you say this? Surveilling what URLs someone is accessing / content they are watching / books they're checking out of the library has been a major security issue, historically.

HTTPS doesn't conceal the domain, or the length, or the order of requests. It's less of an issue for Google, because so much stuff comes from one domain. For small sites, figuring out who read what isn't a hard problem. In practice, you can probably buy that info from an ad tracking service.

You didn't qualify your claim as only pertaining to small sites. You simply said surveillance is not the big problem for static content. Given that most static content is served by large sites and the article is about Youtube, you haven't really supported that claim.

Re: YouTube's road to HTTPS

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Just because your cheap home router does it doesn't mean it scales to thousands of users on one router. Some home routers are actually quite capable AND very unsaturated. I'm not trying to defend carriers but it is a very apples to oranges comparison.

Are there thousands of people on a single flight?

And you thought legroom was bad now....

Re: YouTube's road to HTTPS

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> We found that HTTPS improved quality of experience on most clients: by ensuring content integrity, we virtually eliminated many types of streaming errors Wow, what were carriers doing to the streams?!

It's turning out that HTTPS is more important for content integrity than for security. It's not surveillance that's the big problem for static content. It's middle boxes designed with the delusion they're entitled to mess with the content.

I'd temper that statement significantly. Content integrity is the visible consequence of improved HTTPS compliance and use.

The biggest factor about surveillance is that you are rarely aware you're being surveilled. Direct evidence is rarely present.

Case in point, Michael Lewis's Flyboys. HFT trades intercepts weren't being overtly signalled, but were only evident when trades were structured such that they bypassed the opportunity to intercept intentions at the first market.

Re: YouTube's road to HTTPS

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What a strange thing to automatically (I assume) add to the end of these blogposts: > Sean Watson, Software Engineer, recently watched "GoPro: Fire Vortex Cannon with the Backyard Scientist." > Jon Levine, Product Manager, recently watched "Sega Saturn CD - Cracked after 20 years."

At least they didn't watch anything embarassing. My Youtube recommendations page is a dumpster fire.

Clearing YT history often helps.

I'd vastly prefer channel blocks.

Re: YouTube's road to HTTPS

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I am less curious about the year and more curious as to how the hell flip phones are rendering video. Like 64p 3GPP or something realtime transcoded?

ASCII art.

aalib and aaxine, baby!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mGphynqDkS4

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