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How the food lobby fights sugar regulation in the EU [pdf]

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Re: How the food lobby fights sugar regulation in the EU [pdf]

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post #58

About 6 weeks ago I stopped ingesting sugar, to the extent that is practically possible. No candy & cakes, no sweet drinks and very diligent reading of labels on the non-obvious stuff. I do eat fruit but not processed into juice. Dropped 4 kg, everything tastes better, no energy drop at 4pm and the cravings disappeared within first two days. Friends report similar results. This was also much easier than my previous a…

I always get thrown off that plan by things like yogurt. Even plain yogurt lists a ton of sugar. I can't wait for the new labels that show added sugar.

In the US, plain yogurt would show any added sugar in the ingredients list (it would not reflect the amount).

But it starts from milk, so there is lots of sugar it in.

Re: How the food lobby fights sugar regulation in the EU [pdf]

#94
post #6

I'm not sure if there should be a tax on sugar. But I definitely think that products should have a large visible colorful graphic on the front showing the amount of sugar content.. separate from the basic black and white nutritional info label.

>I'm not sure if there should be a tax on sugar. I think there should be in Canada because we have a public health care system and the effects of sugar intake puts stresses on public health care, and those that who binge on sugar should be forced to pay for their higher costs on public health - I should not be subsiding their preventable issues.

I agree very much with that. But what if food manufacturers come up with new ingredients that escape the tax legally and those ingredients are actual worse for you?

Re: How the food lobby fights sugar regulation in the EU [pdf]

#95
post #6

I'm not sure if there should be a tax on sugar. But I definitely think that products should have a large visible colorful graphic on the front showing the amount of sugar content.. separate from the basic black and white nutritional info label.

In the US sugar is listed without a DV% as well. People might reconsider a Milky Way if they knew it had 70% of your daily recommended added sugar intake (per the article's 45g). I LOLed at https://www.milkywaybar.com/nutrition > MILKY WAY® is a delicious and indulgent treat that can be enjoyed as part of a balanced diet and healthy lifestyle. Why lie? It's heavily-processed, high-fat, high-sugar candy. Of course it'…

They don't exactly lie. This is the tricky thing with candy: it's damn hard to eat just one. Everyone (except possilby diabetics, I don't know) would be fine with eating a milky way every 2-3 days, but that's not how the brain works on sugar. I can and do rarely eat 300g of chocolate inside an hour. I'm pretty sure that's a little bit dangerous, but the only way to avoid it is to not buy the chocolate in the first place. Once I've given myself permission to start eating it's all gone real quick.

Re: How the food lobby fights sugar regulation in the EU [pdf]

#96
post #27

This also shows the true evil of the TTP and TTIP trade deals: corporations can sue any government if their laws affect the corporation's profits. Pure evil. The article has the example of Mexico being sued for their protective laws.

It's not just evil, I presume in the future there will be civil wars because of that - people who'll have enough vs. corporations.

I'm cutting past the corporation talk and going straight to the premise. It's one that we need to reject.

The article starts off with the premise that we are currently suffering a health crisis. This is insane. It's an extreme, hyper-negative point of view. We live in the safest times in all of human history. If you're not living in a shanty town without running water and suffering from dysentery, you're doing pretty well. If your sitting in your climate-controlled house in suburbia, sipping your soda thinking "Man, I'm killing myself with this sugary drink", you are choosing to be miserable. You have decided not to enjoy the wonderful world in which we live. You have decided to focus on an oblique health threat that starving humans through out history have dreamed about. Exporting that self-imposed misery to others is impolite at best if not pure evil.

With this kind of hyper-negative thinking, we could advance medicine to the point that we become immortal with eternally youthful regenerating bodies, but we would go hunting for a way for french fries and sodas to still be evil somehow. Like these things are some sort of modern day werewolf.

The premise is laughable at best. Dangerous at worst. It's neither sane nor healthy to think like this.

You mention civil war. The war here would boil down to the noble cause of killing people to protect us from the health threats of sugar. That's insane! We must reject this thinking.

Re: How the food lobby fights sugar regulation in the EU [pdf]

#97
post #6

I'm not sure if there should be a tax on sugar. But I definitely think that products should have a large visible colorful graphic on the front showing the amount of sugar content.. separate from the basic black and white nutritional info label.

In the US sugar is listed without a DV% as well. People might reconsider a Milky Way if they knew it had 70% of your daily recommended added sugar intake (per the article's 45g). I LOLed at https://www.milkywaybar.com/nutrition > MILKY WAY® is a delicious and indulgent treat that can be enjoyed as part of a balanced diet and healthy lifestyle. Why lie? It's heavily-processed, high-fat, high-sugar candy. Of course it'…

>Why lie? It's heavily-processed, high-fat, high-sugar candy

What part of claiming to be able to enjoy a chocolate bar if you eat otherwise healthy is a "lie"? It's only "unhealthy" in the context of your overall diet.

Re: How the food lobby fights sugar regulation in the EU [pdf]

#98
post #6

I'm not sure if there should be a tax on sugar. But I definitely think that products should have a large visible colorful graphic on the front showing the amount of sugar content.. separate from the basic black and white nutritional info label.

>I'm not sure if there should be a tax on sugar. I think there should be in Canada because we have a public health care system and the effects of sugar intake puts stresses on public health care, and those that who binge on sugar should be forced to pay for their higher costs on public health - I should not be subsiding their preventable issues.

Right. You're free to choose your diet, but any costs of said diet should not be imposed on the rest of society.

Re: How the food lobby fights sugar regulation in the EU [pdf]

#99
post #49
post #7

I don't feel very comfortable with this "anti-sugar" campaign. In a recent past, the villain was fat, now is sugar. I don't think both of them is the problem, the problem is a life without sports and workout. And sugar is the best energy source for the brain, as far as I know.

Fat was made the villain with faulty statistics. Sugar, on the other hand, is very obviously bad for you. It causes type 2 diabetes, it causes caries, and it also suppresses the feeling of satiety. Reducing your sugar intake is the easiest way to get into better shape. Exercise is important, but it won't undo all the damage. E.g. if you heavily drink and smoke, no amount of exercise will undo that. It's the same with…

>Sugar, on the other hand, is very obviously bad for you

No, excess sugar is bad for you.

Re: How the food lobby fights sugar regulation in the EU [pdf]

#100
post #7

I don't feel very comfortable with this "anti-sugar" campaign. In a recent past, the villain was fat, now is sugar. I don't think both of them is the problem, the problem is a life without sports and workout. And sugar is the best energy source for the brain, as far as I know.

>I don't feel very comfortable with this "anti-sugar" campaign.

People want to be victims rather than taking responsibility for themselves. They need something to blame.

Unless I'm imposing costs on others (which, admittedly, sugar can do), don't tell me what I should or shouldn't eat.

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