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Pinboard Turns Seven

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Re: Pinboard Turns Seven

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Post by eridius »

ronnybrendel2 wrote: post #55

I switched to pinboard back when it was a one-time sign-up fee of 9$. I believe the fee increased for each new sign-up by 1 cent or so. Del.icio.us was very good, but at some point it went to shit. Maybe it was when it was acquired by Yahoo? I remember trying to contact support about the broken Firefox plugin. They didn't fix it for over 6months.

Heh, I just checked and it looks like I paid $2.91 when I signed up. It costs more now to buy a pinboard client for iOS than it did for me to sign up for the service!

Re: Pinboard Turns Seven

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Post by eridius »

amix wrote: post #82
samastur wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I feel like I am missing something. You were fine with service and value that it provided until you found out that Maciej is not busy enough running it? Why would you care if you get more value than you pay. Or alternatively, why would you pay for it if it didn't? Are you switching only because of the above reason or is there something missing that you'd like to find elsewhere? I am, too, a long term Pinboard custome…

If you pay for a product on a recurring basis you expect improvements and not only support of the status quo.

Why do you expect things to change? You're not paying for a static product. You're paying for a service, and services have ongoing costs. So your subscription is paying for the ongoing maintenance and running of the service.

To put it another way, do you pay for email? And if you do, do you expect your email provider to be constantly "innovating" with their service, or do you expect them to simply provide a rock-solid dependable email service?

Re: Pinboard Turns Seven

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Post by zackelan »

onion2k wrote: post #16
Arcsech wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pinboard has apparently been involved in at least semi-serious talks to buy Delicious, according to the @Pinboard twitter. I believe he'd do it, too.

Surely that would just take time and energy away from more important things like the burrito tunnel project.

> the burrito tunnel project

For anyone unfamiliar with one of the most important engineering/infrastructure projects ever built:

http://idlewords.com/2007/04/the_alameda_weehawken_burrito_t...

Re: Pinboard Turns Seven

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Post by jlarocco »

Jerry2 wrote: post #10

I switched to Pinboard few months ago when Delicious committed seppuku and made their site completely unusable. First, Delicious just shut down their site for something like a week, then they resurrected some ancient version of their site that looks & behaves like it's from 2007. Then they switched to an old domain (del.icio.us) and broke every bookmarklet and plugin that used their API. (I'm guessing they're plannin…

> I switched to Pinboard few months ago when Delicious committed seppuku and made their site completely unusable.

Funny to see people saying this in 2016.

I switched to Pinboard in early 2011, after rumors of Yahoo "sunsetting" Delicious. A few months later, Delicious was sold off, and it wasn't long before they made the site "completely unusable" for the first time. I didn't realize it was still around, TBH.

Re: Pinboard Turns Seven

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Post by drdaeman »

code_research wrote: post #43

Self hosting alternatives: https://github.com/bookieio/Bookie https://github.com/plainmade/unmark Especially Bookie looks good and would be a preferred candidate to transition to if you are still using the very old 'Sitebar', 'Scuttle' or the interesting 'Semantic Scuttle'.

Sadly, Bookie seems to be somewhat dated and not actively maintained. I've thought of trying it out, and now have hard time packaging it.

By default, it won't even start on modern distributions because of incompatibility with Python >=2.7.11 ("cannot import name _uuid_generate_random"). The requirements.txt file require a few version bumps. I haven't tested whenever the project actually works correctly with those yet, but it seems to at least start with kombu==3.0.35, celery==3.1.23, billiard==3.3.0.23, amqp==2.0.2, redis==2.10.5.

(I'm lazily toying with it remotely, setting it up on a small ARMv7 host, wrapping it with Docker+honcho+gunicorn, and rebuilding the image when I update requirements takes long time...)

Re: Pinboard Turns Seven

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Post by shadowspar »

amix wrote: post #82
samastur wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I feel like I am missing something. You were fine with service and value that it provided until you found out that Maciej is not busy enough running it? Why would you care if you get more value than you pay. Or alternatively, why would you pay for it if it didn't? Are you switching only because of the above reason or is there something missing that you'd like to find elsewhere? I am, too, a long term Pinboard custome…

If you pay for a product on a recurring basis you expect improvements and not only support of the status quo.

I keep paying my electricity bill every month, but those a-holes at the utility company never make my electricity any better either!

Re: Pinboard Turns Seven

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Post by firebones »

SonicSoul wrote: post #64
maxerickson wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a bunch of users.

i believe delicious is free so you'd still need to convince those users to switch to a paying model.

Nah, the transfer would generate a bunch of headlines, which in turn would translate into a bunch of new signups. I suspect Pinboard's signup spike graph is like a seismograph of Big Bookmarking's asshattery moments.

Re: Pinboard Turns Seven

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Post by steve19 »

idlewords wrote: post #87
tomaskafka wrote: post #80

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For bookmarking? Srsly? It must be like 2 days per year and browser max :rollseyes (yes, I've built several browser extensions) ...

So that's like a week of my year gone! No thanks.

A week your paying users (myself included) would greatly appreciate.

Re: Pinboard Turns Seven

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Post by jesserosenthal »

tptacek wrote: post #84

A quick reminder for those of you who read a lot of papers: if you have an archival account, Pinboard will index PDFs. This is way more useful than it sounds: as you bookmark papers, Pinboard gradually transforms into a mini search engine for the research you care about. Someone asked me yesterday how it was I read so many crypto papers, after citing Bos and Costello in crypto dork Slack. I forgot to tell them my tri…

I just wish there were some way for it to deal with paywalls -- since most of the pdfs I need are behind JSTOR or Muse. I realize this would be a technical and/or legal hassle (things from behind a paywall would have to be private by default, I guess) so I'm not holding my breath. But for use in the humanities and social sciences, it would make it a lot more useful.

I keep meaning to write some script that downloads jstor PDFS that I want to pin, uploads them to my server, and bookmarks them as private there. But trying to figure out whether I'd need to add a robots.txt and the like has kept me from making it happen.

Re: Pinboard Turns Seven

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Post by tedunangst »

SonicSoul wrote: post #62
morgante wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for posting the background info. As a loyal user of Delicious, I hope Tony is able to turn it around. It's really depressing to see thousands of my bookmarks become unusable. The site doesn't even support https. Respectfully, I hope you don't buy it though. I want me bookmarks provider to be free of politics.

I want me bookmarks provider to be free of politics care to provide a reference? Missed this.

Pin board on Twitter is far from politically neutral.
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