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Re: Felony – An open-source PGP keychain

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Post by krisdol »

ascendantlogic wrote: post #87
deanCommie wrote: post #21

Okay, I'll be the contrarian one: I HATE the name. There have already been trends in the mainstream and right wing media that "If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear", that the NSA only monitors the communication of criminals, and that things like iPhone encryption help terrorists first. With that in mind, can you imagine the reaction that the average lay-person will have when they see a clickbait head…

I just put in an issue to change the name. Looks like one was put in prior and closed without comment by the repo owner. I hope he doesn't think this is some edgy way to be "cool" EDIT: He closed my issue without comment.

fork it and maintain your own name if you feel strongly about it.

Re: Felony – An open-source PGP keychain

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Post by zouhair »

henryboldi wrote: post #24
cdnsteve wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This looks like an interesting project but has a poor name choice. If it's targeted at non technical users, it may actually prevent them from using it, out of fear that just using it is illegal.

It's not targeted at entirely non technical users. That's why it's on Hacker News ;)

Just change the name man. Just today two of my non tech savvy friends refused to use it, they were scared by the name.

Re: Felony – An open-source PGP keychain

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Post by SNvD7vEJ »

henryboldi wrote: post #2

Hi I'm Henry, the creator of Felony I’ve had a passion for politics, history, and programming since the age of 12 growing up in a suburb of Chicago. During my freshman year, I developed an interest in software. A couple of apps and hackathons (programming competitions) later, I was working on my own startups when I made the leap to drop out of high school to become a software engineer at a venture-backed tech startup…

Please change the name of the app. I'm Swedish, and to me the name sounds really repelling.

Maybe someone could fork the application and rename it to something cool that I can use?

Re: Felony – An open-source PGP keychain

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Post by brashrat »

callumlocke wrote: post #27

Although the name is ironic, it will reinforce the common vague notion that encryption is something politicized/controversial/illegal, and that's not a good thing for infosec. Looks great otherwise.

the name may be intended to be ironic, but the irony of the irony is that if you are interested in communicating about conducting one or more felonies, I would in fact urge you to use encryption.

I hate when people hate the "if you have nothing to hide, why do you care?" question because it's a valid question. You can answer, "because I fear the creeping growth of a surveillance state like in 1984", but then again, if you do that you no longer get to claim that other "slippery slope arguments are fallacies".

I've been a bigger privacy freak than all of you since before you were born, google my somewhat unusual name, you won't even find me. But still, I enjoy making fun of the groupthink that infects these types of communities.

Re: Felony – An open-source PGP keychain

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Post by cyphar »

henryboldi wrote: post #13
icebraining wrote: post #7

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Hi! The app looks great. Can you speak a bit more about the interaction? How would two people who just downloaded Felony send an encrypted message to each other?

Here's how it works... 1. Add public keys to your buddies list— A public key is like a username - Adding someone’s public key to your buddies list lets you send them messages. You can find other public keys on markets like keybase.io and darknet. 2. Encrypt a message— Select a recipient from your buddies list and compose a message. Only your chosen recipient(s) can read the message. Encrypted messages might contain s…

1. Why did you choose PGP, when we have OTR and Axolotl -- which are specifically designed for informal communication where repudiation (recipient Y not being able to prove to others that X sent the original message) matters.

2. How are the public keys securely distributed? You say that "a public key is like a username", but without a central authority you hit a lot of issues (essentially the CAP tradeoff, but for user IDs). And with a central authority, you have no trustworthiness. Or are the users just meant to find public keys themselves (in which case you're back to the current state of affairs).

3. The name choice is stupid. Why on earth would anyone sane in this political climate call an encryption program "Felony"?

Re: Felony – An open-source PGP keychain

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Post by krisdol »

biokoda wrote: post #78
wmluke wrote: post #67

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Currently, the trending HN commentry is focused on this name, and as much I like a good naming debate, I feel it is distracting from more "significant" concerns, such as... How does the app handle encryption? Has there been a security review?How are keys handled? How are conversations persisted in the app? Does it use iCloud? Etc...

> How does the app handle encryption? Has there been a security review? It's built on Electron, React and Redux. There is no security as it is a fundamentally insecure environment.

lol js amirite

Good circlejerking

Re: Felony – An open-source PGP keychain

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Post by nailer »

clarkmoody wrote: post #89
mildavw wrote: post #44

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Suggestions and/or concepts you (OP) want to evoke: Patriot Freedom Liberty Good Citizen Free Speech America Fourth Amendment Secure In Papers Right To Privacy

+1 for Liberty That's the concept that encapsulates privacy, speech, etc. The America-centric names are less appealing to me, since many equate "America" with the federal government, which is definitely not the friend of liberty / free speech / privacy.

+1 for 'Privacy'. Liberty is America centric. And privacy is more specific.

Re: Felony – An open-source PGP keychain

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Post by ascendantlogic »

krisdol wrote: post #91
ascendantlogic wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just put in an issue to change the name. Looks like one was put in prior and closed without comment by the repo owner. I hope he doesn't think this is some edgy way to be "cool" EDIT: He closed my issue without comment.

fork it and maintain your own name if you feel strongly about it.

Or maybe he shouldn't be giving opponents of strong encryption a PR gift on a platter.

Re: Felony – An open-source PGP keychain

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Post by grandalf »

deanCommie wrote: post #21

Okay, I'll be the contrarian one: I HATE the name. There have already been trends in the mainstream and right wing media that "If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear", that the NSA only monitors the communication of criminals, and that things like iPhone encryption help terrorists first. With that in mind, can you imagine the reaction that the average lay-person will have when they see a clickbait head…

Fork and rename?
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