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Re: Announcing Google Research, Europe

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Post by hobo_mark »

xiphias wrote: post #51
XCSme wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have actually applied to Google Zurich (but after 10 interviews they didn't hire me) and studied a bit how the life is there. There are many advantages or living there, but the cost of life and the fact that most people in Zurich are immigrants makes it a pretty cold city where it is hard to make friends or stay for a very long period of time. I think that now your point about "tech friendly environments" is not re…

I'm moving back to Google Zurich. The male/female ratio is a huge issue there, so it's good to bring a girlfriend, but cost of living was never a problem. Taxes are minimal, salary at Google Zurich is huge.

You mean there's an imbalance at Google or in the city in general? Any idea why?

Re: Announcing Google Research, Europe

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Post by T-A »

dav-id wrote: post #77
zerr wrote: post #64

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Not at all. Germany is one of the most tech/dev friendly country, especially if you are outside web dev. I see a lot of C++ engineering opportunities there. If only it was an English speaking country, and they had a sun... (It's a shame that we don't have a good English speaking country in whole Europe...) ;)

I hear the English can speak English quite well

Yes, but then there is the "sun" part...

Re: Announcing Google Research, Europe

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Post by bostonpete »

ulfw wrote: post #87
dominotw wrote: post #68

>This really makes me consider moving my family to Zurich. If you immigrate to America you can become an American. You can shop till you drop, eat mc donlads, celebrate 4th of july and call yourself an american. This can not be said for any other country. In Germany you will always be an "immigrant", maybe if your kids are white and young enough to pick up the language maybe they can become invisible. But for anyone…

Completely disagree on that. Lived ten years in California. Studies, Green Card etc. Could have gone for citizenship, but didn't. I was never seen as an American. Ever. Not even a little bit. I was always 'the German'. Almost every coffee shop, restaurant, super market, you name it I got asked where I am from or where my accent is from. No. It is not cute. It reminds you you are NOT one of them.

> you name it I got asked where I am from or where my accent is from.

Your interpretation of these sorts of questions may have been influenced by your German upbringing.

There's a wide variety of accents even by Americans who were born and raised here. Add in the fact that we're all pretty much only a generation or two removed from at least one immigrant, and discussion about where people are from, etc. is typically just a way for people to make conversation and attempt to connect with one another.

There are probably nationalities which would make certain people uncomfortable and treat you differently, but I don't think Germany is one of those.

Re: Announcing Google Research, Europe

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Post by randomsearch »

hobo_mark wrote: post #89
zerr wrote: post #55

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Glassdoors shows pretty average. What do you call huge?

In most of the world (and certainly Europe), even barely touching or crossing six figures is virtually unheard of.

Facebook average inc. bonuses £210K In London last year:

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/markets/article-3268356/F...

Re: Announcing Google Research, Europe

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Post by dang »

dominotw wrote: post #68

>This really makes me consider moving my family to Zurich. If you immigrate to America you can become an American. You can shop till you drop, eat mc donlads, celebrate 4th of july and call yourself an american. This can not be said for any other country. In Germany you will always be an "immigrant", maybe if your kids are white and young enough to pick up the language maybe they can become invisible. But for anyone…

We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11915218 and marked it off-topic.

Re: Announcing Google Research, Europe

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Post by jsprogrammer »

ulfw wrote: post #87
dominotw wrote: post #68

>This really makes me consider moving my family to Zurich. If you immigrate to America you can become an American. You can shop till you drop, eat mc donlads, celebrate 4th of july and call yourself an american. This can not be said for any other country. In Germany you will always be an "immigrant", maybe if your kids are white and young enough to pick up the language maybe they can become invisible. But for anyone…

Completely disagree on that. Lived ten years in California. Studies, Green Card etc. Could have gone for citizenship, but didn't. I was never seen as an American. Ever. Not even a little bit. I was always 'the German'. Almost every coffee shop, restaurant, super market, you name it I got asked where I am from or where my accent is from. No. It is not cute. It reminds you you are NOT one of them.

I live in California, was born in California, and just yesterday, people claiming to live in New York, but having "come from" Kenya and Israel, knocked on my door and in the course of our conversation, demanded to know where I was "from".

Edit: I guess people don't like reading descriptions of fact?

People from every where seem to exhibit the behavior; I don't think it is specific to California and I'm not sure that it occurs more in California than any where else.

Re: Announcing Google Research, Europe

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Post by s3nnyy »

tobltobs wrote: post #90
tomp wrote: post #70

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Clearly it's still beneficial for some people.

He doesn't supply any informations you couldn't lookup in 10 seconds on wikipedia. He also fading out any non positive details in his chorus of praise. I don't what his motivations are, but I guess he collects leads for some dubious job agencies.

I am the tech-recruiting agency and I only recommend jobs at companies I would work for myself (I am a software engineer with a master in CS from one of the top-3 schools in Europe).

Sorry that I appear spammy, my motivation is truly to add value to HN and provide actionable information to those who are interested. I will try to be more modest in the future.

Re: Announcing Google Research, Europe

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Post by zerr »

randomsearch wrote: post #94
hobo_mark wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In most of the world (and certainly Europe), even barely touching or crossing six figures is virtually unheard of.

Facebook average inc. bonuses £210K In London last year: http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/markets/article-3268356/F...

In London, Google was paying GBP 70-80K, same for Skype/Microsoft.

Re: Announcing Google Research, Europe

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Post by endtime »

blub wrote: post #66
make3 wrote: post #49

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10 interviews? is that normal for a research job? that feels like a lot

Apparently Apple, Google & co have so many applicants that they can do whatever they want. How incompetent can one be at interviewing to need 10 or 20 interviews?! Soon they'll make candidates crawl through broken glass.

We typically do 5, in one day. 10 sounds like the rare case where the hiring committee was on the fence after those and asked for another interview day.

Re: Announcing Google Research, Europe

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Post by zerr »

hobo_mark wrote: post #89
zerr wrote: post #55

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Glassdoors shows pretty average. What do you call huge?

In most of the world (and certainly Europe), even barely touching or crossing six figures is virtually unheard of.

Yes, but Switzerland is a special case in general. Even post-docs (research assistants) at academic institutions have near six-figure salaries (CHF 85K, in quite theoretic field). A lot of non-hype tech companies provide six-figure salaries for engineers. I can't imagine any non-junior engineer to relocate to Zurich for anything below that.
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