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Computer Crash Wipes Out Years of Air Force Investigation Records

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Re: Computer Crash Wipes Out Years of Air Force Investigation Records

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> Yeah, forgive me if I'm too cynical, but Hanlon's razor fails when this sort of thing involves criminal investigations of government employees. I've had this thought before. Can you think of a general, defensible clause to add to Hanlon's razor to account for this?

"There is no point in trying to distinguish incompetence from malice when it directly benefits the party committing the error." You need to treat it all as malice.

This seems like a very reasonable standard when the power of the state is being wielded.

Re: Computer Crash Wipes Out Years of Air Force Investigation Records

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The only thing between your data and /dev/null in a cloud data center is a vacation and expired credit card.

Thank goodness storage is cheap. I've had a revolving door of credit/debit card numbers over the last few years thanks to identity theft, and the SaaS providers I use for personal stuff are really good about keeping my data around even after invalid credit-card auto-pay cycles fail. For more serious data, I have to imagine that SLAs generally define data retention periods even after exiting the agreement, right? (I l…

It depends on the vendor. I negotiated a pretty big agreement a few years ago and were able to get the vendor to agree to hold data for a year after termination. We also backup to another provider.

That said, over the years I've witnessed all manner of billing and payment fuckups. I'm not trying to say that cloud is bad -- but that billing snafu is a risk factor that you need to understand and account for.

Re: Computer Crash Wipes Out Years of Air Force Investigation Records

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It was a quote from the TV show 'Yes, Minister': James Hacker: How am I going to explain the missing documents to "The Mail"? Sir Humphrey Appleby: Well, this is what we normally do in circumstances like these. James Hacker: [reads memo] This file contains the complete set of papers, except for a number of secret documents, a few others which are part of still active files, some correspondence lost in the floods of 1…

Reminds me of this: The Front Fell Off - http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3m5qxZm_JqM

The is Australian, and if you like it, look for _The Games_ on YouTube, a mock drama series about the 1996 Sydney Olympic Games organizing committee

Re: Computer Crash Wipes Out Years of Air Force Investigation Records

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If they were running a Windows server, they didn't care about their data.

Please stop posting unsubstantive comments to Hacker News.

We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11906732 and marked it off-topic.

Re: Computer Crash Wipes Out Years of Air Force Investigation Records

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post #92

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"There is no point in trying to distinguish incompetence from malice when it directly benefits the party committing the error." You need to treat it all as malice.

This seems like a very reasonable standard when the power of the state is being wielded.

It applies at all times. Given that it's very easy to disguise your behavior as incompetence, it doesn't make sense to give the benefit of the doubt to people who do something that gives them a huge payout. Trying to forgive the incompetent people while punishing the malicious ones just brings you a huge epidemic of mysteriously incompetent people.

Re: Computer Crash Wipes Out Years of Air Force Investigation Records

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post #92

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This seems like a very reasonable standard when the power of the state is being wielded.

It applies at all times. Given that it's very easy to disguise your behavior as incompetence, it doesn't make sense to give the benefit of the doubt to people who do something that gives them a huge payout. Trying to forgive the incompetent people while punishing the malicious ones just brings you a huge epidemic of mysteriously incompetent people.

But what if it's not about punishment, but prevention?

Re: Computer Crash Wipes Out Years of Air Force Investigation Records

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Re: Computer Crash Wipes Out Years of Air Force Investigation Records

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There has been too much recently of government agencies losing data due to "crashes" or "inadvertent" deletions. For example the IRS, state department, and now the Air Force. A really easy way to fix this is to make a law so that if government data such as this gets lost, then the cabinet level person responsible for overseeing the agency immediately loses their cabinet level position and is barred from further work…

> A really easy way to fix this is to make a law so that if government data such as this gets lost, then the cabinet level person responsible for overseeing the agency immediately loses their cabinet level position and is barred from further work with the federal government.

I see a fantastic way to completely abuse this. Need to get someone who disagrees with you kicked out? Hire some corporate espionage people to take care of that work for you!

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