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We Hired a Blind Coder

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Re: We Hired a Blind Coder

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I thought I'd give my $0.02 worth on some of the questions raised. > I wonder if any blind coders could comment on how they see programmatic flow in their minds eye? It's all about the structure. I think of it like reading a novel with a complex plot - you meet some of the characters, learn facts about them, and then you get introduced to new characters, and later in the book you find out how they relate to each othe…

> By definition, the blind coder is limited compared to non-disabled people.

Wut.

One could equally argue "by definition, an ex-vi user is limited compared to an IDE user" (I mean ex-vi.sf.net and that's what I actually use) - so much of development is about thinking, and the interaction method to provide the solution to the computer once you've figured it out is often almost incidental.

(on the upside, it appears the original comment asking that has been flagged to death, but FFS basic logic fail)

Re: We Hired a Blind Coder

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One of my friends is a blind coder (and he sometimes comments here on HN), and he's had a very hard time getting regular work as a coder, even for things that seem obvious (like testing and fixing apps and sites for accessibility). He's bright and built his own screen reader for Android, among other things. But, I think that's a common experience for folks with disabilities; they begin to feel like they have to apolo…

Here's my personal anecdote: I'm a blind dev and building a company in India. I had been having jobs in US-based companies for about 8 years and on the side I'd been creating products/taking freelancing projects to be independent of job (not that I lacked in any job rather I almost always quickly emerged to be the most technically competent go-to person to get solutions to programming problems.) At the moment one of…

As someone who has tried to use screen readers in the past (I had quite bad dyslexia as a kid), I do find it impressive that people can program with them (screen readers more than stumble when trying to read code). In the end I only really used them to proofread my writing, and still do occasionally.

With regards to disability (I injured my knee a few years ago and use crutches to get around): It is amazing how people assume your brain is somehow also effected by and treat you differently. You see the best in people (the kindness) and the worst in people (those who either pretend you're invisible or will literally push past you to try and get the last seat). I actually find it's a pretty filter to save me time dealing with superficial people.

The worse part for me is dating, those few seconds when they first see the crutches. Especially when the date's going well and then you have to get up. Sometimes you recover, sometimes you don't..

There's also term for disabled people (don't downvote me, I didn't invent it!) a 'supercrip' - A disabled person who works hard to overcome his/her disability. While it may not be the most flattering term, it is prefixed with the word super!

Re: We Hired a Blind Coder

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a maintainer of a major UI library for the web, I sympathize, but I also find that it also takes significant time to get accessibility done right as well. There is a lot of research involved for most people, precisely because they are not blind. I find that it is time consuming and doesn't offer as much bang for the effort, which is a shame & something I know I need to work on. I wish there is a better solution he…

Do any large companies use your library? If so, they likely have requirements to make their sites accessible. It may be worth finding out if they've modified your library in any way to make it accessible (or simply easier to make the end result accessible) and can submit the changes back. We're looking at doing that for a table library (slickgrid, e.g. [1]) we use, as we'd prefer to help an existing in-use library ov…

They do - the library is UI Bootstrap: https://github.com/angular-ui/bootstrap . I know many Fortune 500s use it.

Re: We Hired a Blind Coder

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I think most programmers don't realize how much vision holds them back. I've been coding blindfolded for over a month and I'm never going back. If you are a touch typist what do you need to see ? Not looking at things helps me to focus. I do take the blindfold off while checking my work an during some parts of debugging.

>I do take the blindfold off while checking my work an during some parts of debugging.

Amateur. Real programmers don't even own a monitor.

Re: We Hired a Blind Coder

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Whats the screen reader this coder uses? Is there a best screen reader for us software developers?

He uses this screen reader: http://www.freedomscientific.com/Products/Blindness/JAWS

It doesn't have Linux support though so if he needs to work in the Linux OS, he uses Windows with a Linux VM

It's not built specially for software developers but just all visually impaired users in general

Re: We Hired a Blind Coder

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Hi, I'm Herwin, the person who is on the article.

I just finished read all the comments above, and would like to share my story and my thoughts.

But since the comment is too long, I put it on my dropbox, you can found it here :

https://www.dropbox.com/s/h9dxozsrxz7wuqf/mystory.txt?dl=0

Sorry for the inconvenience, and thanks all ;).

Warm regards -- Herwin

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