Wow whoever came up with the whole 'in the name of terrorism' is a goddamn genius. Pretty much a free card to get access to anything and everything for the sake of 'security'.
Almost as good as "think of the children"
FBI wants access to browser history without a warrant in terrorism, spy cases
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Re: FBI wants access to browser history without a warrant in terrorism, spy cases
#92Earlier quoted context omitted.
Government can not be trusted. Something that the founding fathers and understood and warned centuries ago despite their own inherent flaws. Individual liberty is something that we need to defend actively from the government and that can not happen unless we take a diametrically opposite stance and do not concede even and inch of ground. Example: People who supported civil forfeiture essentially thought that its okay…
Starving the beast doesn't work -- programs and infrastructure you want funded aren't and programs you don't want supported are fully funded. This has always been the way. Furthermore, under funded governments tend to much more corrupt. You also can't lower taxes without hurting employment and nobody wants higher unemployment.
> You also can't lower taxes without hurting employment and nobody wants higher unemployment.
This is counter to virtually everything I've seen asserted about economics, as well as the raw world data on hours worked compared to tax rates.
There is a "leisure effect" whereby getting more money for the same amount of work (the effect of lowering taxes) means that people choose additional leisure over additional work, because they don't need the extra money from additional work as badly. It is much less strong than the effect whereby raising the returns on work leads people to do more of it, because they're getting more out of the extra work than they used to.
What are you thinking of when you make this claim?
Re: FBI wants access to browser history without a warrant in terrorism, spy cases
#93Call to Firefox devs: restore the option to keep history for a specified number of days. Why was this option ever removed? It originated all the way back in Netscape. Also: make a prominent "clear last hour" option for mobile; I hate following a link from someone and finding a ton of tracking cookies have just been added.
The title seem to suggest this has something to do with browser histories, but as far as I can tell from reading the article it's much worse: they want your ISP to keep a log of the web sites/other services you are using, and they want to get this log by simple request to your ISP (no VSL, subpoena, or warrant). So restoring this option wouldn't help, maybe only using TOR or some VPN proxy would.
Eew. The only reason telephone service provides similar records is because it was necessary for billing by the minute with different rates for different regions. But the Internet doesn't require any of that, so we certainly shouldn't have ISPs logging all of our traffic, let alone turning records over without a warrant.
Re: FBI wants access to browser history without a warrant in terrorism, spy cases
#94Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's the thing. "Terrorism" like "communism" previously is described as threat where regular laws are not strong enough and here needs to be an exception. Communism went away but terrorism will most likely never go away.
In fact if we end up patrolling Muslim neighborhoods as some presidential candidates have suggested, I suspect we'll only end up increasing terrorism.
I'm pretty sure that's the whole point. Politicians are generally asses, but not dumbasses.
Re: FBI wants access to browser history without a warrant in terrorism, spy cases
#95Wow whoever came up with the whole 'in the name of terrorism' is a goddamn genius. Pretty much a free card to get access to anything and everything for the sake of 'security'.
Using "terrorism" as a threat is simply the new "communism" arguments from the 1950s-1980s. It's just that this new era has no foreseeable end in site. There has been, and always will be, some type of terrorists. So its a perfect opportunity to use this threat (whether real in some cases and not in some cases) to get something approved that you could not normally. At least with the end of of the USSR, most of the old…
>...according to Hardt and Negri's Empire, the rise of Empire is the end of national conflict, the "enemy" now, whoever he is, can no longer be ideological or national. The enemy now must be understood as a kind of criminal, as someone who represents a threat not to a political system or a nation but to the law. This is the enemy as a terrorist....In the "new order that envelops the entire space of... civilization", where conflict between nations has been made irrelevant, the "enemy" is simultaneously "banalized" (reduced to an object of routine police repression) and absolutized (as the Enemy, an absolute threat to the ethical order"[2]).[3]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empire_%28Negri_and_Hardt_book...
Re: FBI wants access to browser history without a warrant in terrorism, spy cases
#96Earlier quoted context omitted.
You (and everybody else) don't understand what I mean because you haven't thought about it as much as I have. By what principle do you think districts should be drawn--they must be redrawn due to shifting population--so do you intend to draw exaggerated patterns to spread out minority opinions, or to clump them together? Or are you suggesting that you flip coins topologically? What if flipping coins results in a sala…
> You (and everybody else) don't understand what I mean because you haven't thought about it as much as I have. Even if true, this is surely the least civil way, and one of the least convincing ways, to state the fact. > My point is, there IS NO RIGHT ANSWER. There is only your preference. That seems to be a different claim to: > any creation of voting districts is a Gerrymander (which you said above). Two reasons wh…
I've presented a pretty terrible solution before and I'll say it again to illustrate a point.
Let's say we make the whole nation into a single constituent district. Now, every voter will cast one vote for one representative and the top N candidates with the most votes win.
This is a terrible solution but even this is better than what we have today which i hope goes far too show how bad the system we have today is...
Systems design should strive to make it resistant to corruption and try to not rely on the goodness of people making correct/impartial choices.
(I am fully aware of my hypocrisy when I claim to support democracy around the world except obviously {{}} can't be in government. I hope that this just shows that I can't even trust myself to be correct/consistent/impartial.)
Bottom line is that every vote within a jurisdiction should be equally equal regardless of geographical location. It might lead to people we don't like getting elected but that shouldn't dissuade us. However, I have to agree with President Obama in this -- the only way to effect any change here is to get people involved in very large numbers. Get people to move to these safe districts. I can't see how we can accomplish change here with the levels of apathy we have...
Re: FBI wants access to browser history without a warrant in terrorism, spy cases
#97Earlier quoted context omitted.
Starving the beast doesn't work -- programs and infrastructure you want funded aren't and programs you don't want supported are fully funded. This has always been the way. Furthermore, under funded governments tend to much more corrupt. You also can't lower taxes without hurting employment and nobody wants higher unemployment.
> You also can't lower taxes without hurting employment and nobody wants higher unemployment. This is counter to virtually everything I've seen asserted about economics, as well as the raw world data on hours worked compared to tax rates. There is a "leisure effect" whereby getting more money for the same amount of work (the effect of lowering taxes) means that people choose additional leisure over additional work, b…
I meant people working directly or indirectly for the government.
Re: FBI wants access to browser history without a warrant in terrorism, spy cases
#98Call to Firefox devs: restore the option to keep history for a specified number of days. Why was this option ever removed? It originated all the way back in Netscape. Also: make a prominent "clear last hour" option for mobile; I hate following a link from someone and finding a ton of tracking cookies have just been added.
The title seem to suggest this has something to do with browser histories, but as far as I can tell from reading the article it's much worse: they want your ISP to keep a log of the web sites/other services you are using, and they want to get this log by simple request to your ISP (no VSL, subpoena, or warrant). So restoring this option wouldn't help, maybe only using TOR or some VPN proxy would.
And if you use Tor, keep an eye on the drama that is going in that project now.
Re: FBI wants access to browser history without a warrant in terrorism, spy cases
#99Earlier quoted context omitted.
What is to be done, when dicking us over and harshly keeping us in line is profitable, and we keep electing them to do it ?!
>What is to be done Pay more attention to the election and government processes. Inform people. Most people don't know about civil forfeiture (even the name is enough to bore many people), so they don't know cops are stealing from people. A people that doesn't pay attention to the government gets screwed by the government every time, no matter what rules are in place. That's why Lawrence Lessig is trying to change th…
> Most people don't know civil forfeiture
Most people don't care about X (civil forfeiture, whistleblowers, Controversial invocations of the Patriot Act, etc.)
> Pay more attention to the election and government processes.
Yes but this completely ignores the fact that most Americans are apathetic to these issues.
What I learned this year was that (as another poster put it) "Gerrymandering, fraud, bribery, voter suppression" were visible, they would also be tolerated.
Also, if you're under investigation by the FBI for espionage, most Americans will STILL vote for you. And the other major half will vote for someone who is clearly racist and (imho) dumb as nails.
Re: FBI wants access to browser history without a warrant in terrorism, spy cases
#100Earlier quoted context omitted.
"The people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country." --Hermann Göring
Didn't know this quote. Just saved it into my quote-book.
It is even more interesting, today, when you see the statement that prompted Göring to respond as such.
> "There is one difference," I pointed out. "In a democracy the people have some say in the matter through their elected representatives, and in the United States only Congress can declare wars." [0]
It is funny how quickly Congress delegated that power to the executive.