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I'd love to have a third player in the game to add more pressure to keep the prices low.
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Almost makes you wish Apple, Facebook and Google would team up and buy them.
They buy them for their own purposes, not necessarily for the "greater good". http://www.wired.com/2015/07/google-facebook-amazon-lobbying...
It'll be interesting to see how the lobbyist wrangling behind the scenes works out. The tech industry is the new kid on the block, especially in terms of their presence in Washington DC, and it takes time to build up relationships and influence in politics. It's not quite as quickly scalable as the tech industry is used to, but they also have vastly more resources.
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True. I recall reading somewhere that Japan has a law requiring the owner of the physical wires to lease them to anyone as long as they pay some set fee - sort of like mechanical royalties that we have for music. This is part of the reason why Japan has some of the fastest and cheapest Internet in the world.
That's called last mile unbundling, and is one thing the FCC has refused to consider. aDSL used to be unbundled, too. And while it was unbundled, speeds were increasing. aDSL speeds have been pretty flat since they removed the requirement, even though newer DSL technologies are available.
Playing devil's advocate here.
How would they increase adsl speed if it's very much distance-related? It tops out at 24Mbps and even then in ideal conditions.
Those newer DSL technologies require laying fiber closer to the customer and that's a nontrivial investment.
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If you use metropolitan areas then you're just proving the original point. Metro areas in the US are HUGE! For example, the Greater Las Angeles area is ~34k square miles. The entire country of England is only ~50k square miles! Understanding this is key to understanding why the cable and telecom businesses in the US are so difficult to enter.
Citation needed for the ~34k mi² estimate. Per Wikipedia it's https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Angeles_metropolitan_are...
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Citation needed for the ~34k mi² estimate. Per Wikipedia it's https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Angeles_metropolitan_are...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Los_Angeles_Area
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That's called last mile unbundling, and is one thing the FCC has refused to consider. aDSL used to be unbundled, too. And while it was unbundled, speeds were increasing. aDSL speeds have been pretty flat since they removed the requirement, even though newer DSL technologies are available.
> aDSL speeds have been pretty flat since they removed the requirement, even though newer DSL technologies are available. Playing devil's advocate here. How would they increase adsl speed if it's very much distance-related? It tops out at 24Mbps and even then in ideal conditions. Those newer DSL technologies require laying fiber closer to the customer and that's a nontrivial investment.
Most of that has come from legislation that forced the monopolistic owner of copper wires to let competition use them.
I like how detailed the caption for the (stock) header image is A coaxial cable is displayed for a photograph in front of a Time Warner Cable helmet in Manhattan Beach, California, U.S., on Monday, August 12, 2013.
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> aDSL speeds have been pretty flat since they removed the requirement, even though newer DSL technologies are available. Playing devil's advocate here. How would they increase adsl speed if it's very much distance-related? It tops out at 24Mbps and even then in ideal conditions. Those newer DSL technologies require laying fiber closer to the customer and that's a nontrivial investment.
Huh? Here in EU the DSL speeds have been steadily growing up to 50Mbit without users doing much (ISPs deploy either modern ADSL2+ or versions of VDSL). A copper wire that could only carry 8Mbit before now carries full triple-play at 30+Mbits. Most of that has come from legislation that forced the monopolistic owner of copper wires to let competition use them.
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Where are you guys getting these numbers? The top 5 cities in the US have 19.2 M residents, and the top 10 have 26 M. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_b... This one is more sensitive to noise, but still pretty different than what you quote: The top 5 metro areas have 56.9 M https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_North_American_metropo...
Fixed my 25 figure, accidentally added one city twice I think. For the ~70 million figure, see here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_metropolitan_areas_o...
> A combined statistical area (CSA) is composed of adjacent metropolitan (MSA) and micropolitan statistical areas (µSA) in the United States and Puerto Rico that can demonstrate economic or social linkage. The OMB defines a CSA as consisting of various combinations of adjacent metropolitan and micropolitan areas with economic ties measured by commuting patterns.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combined_statistical_area
For instance, the "Washington-Baltimore-Arlington, DC-MD-VA-WV-PA Combined Statistical Area" (which is not part of the top 5 cities) includes all of Hampshire County, West Virginia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hampshire_County,_West_Virgini...
a Google image search confirms that this is a very rural area.
https://www.google.com/search?safe=off&site=&tbm=isch&source...
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> aDSL speeds have been pretty flat since they removed the requirement, even though newer DSL technologies are available. Playing devil's advocate here. How would they increase adsl speed if it's very much distance-related? It tops out at 24Mbps and even then in ideal conditions. Those newer DSL technologies require laying fiber closer to the customer and that's a nontrivial investment.
Huh? Here in EU the DSL speeds have been steadily growing up to 50Mbit without users doing much (ISPs deploy either modern ADSL2+ or versions of VDSL). A copper wire that could only carry 8Mbit before now carries full triple-play at 30+Mbits. Most of that has come from legislation that forced the monopolistic owner of copper wires to let competition use them.
Hence VDSLx is usually rolled out only as part of an FTTC deployment, where the ISP needs to roll out new fibre (rather than copper) to the caninet/junction box, and in most cases install DSLAM units in those cabinets also.