Will Wunderlist shut down too, I wonder?
Were they bought?
Yes, by Microsoft
Sunrise is shutting down
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Re: Sunrise is shutting down
#92Earlier quoted context omitted.
i tried using Sunrise but was already a devout Fantastical user. i'm just too into the Alfred / Fantastical macro life now. Glad I stuck with them.
I'd be curious to hear how you use Alfred and FantastiCal if you're willing to share?
the biggest thing is just simply hotkeying fantastical to "f" in Alfred and burning out reminders and events from the keyboard.
you can also pull up fantastical and scroll through your events but I find most of the time I'm reviewing events from my phone.
here are some more tweaks: https://www.alfredapp.com/blog/productivity/dont-miss-a-date...
Re: Sunrise is shutting down
#93Earlier quoted context omitted.
In what sense?
My understanding is that Outlook for iOS uses a cloud service that talks to the Exchange server and stores your credentials/data: https://blog.winkelmeyer.com/2015/01/warning-microsofts-outl... . So logging in involves giving Microsoft (and indirectly Amazon, since it runs on AWS), clear-text access to your information.
So? You have no expectation of privacy in email anyway, right?
Re: Sunrise is shutting down
#94Once a startup gets bought, I look for alternatives. If they don't shut down, I still learned something new! But usually they do. In this case, I landed on Fantastical [1] — it's a little pricy but completely worth it. (Mac/iOS only.) [1]: https://flexibits.com/fantastical
> it's a little pricy We should appreciate when its pricey. That's motivation for the product to continue to exist. Otherwise, "OurIncredibleJourney".
I agree but the current model is broken. I buy FantastiCal, don't like it, I've just thrown money down the toilet. Yeah yeah you can go through iTunes and get it back but that feels like a dick move, and how many actually know the procedure anyway? It's not exactly advertised.
I throw a quid down the toilet? That's fine, I don't mind. I throw a fiver or a tenner? Woah dude, that's like, a Starbucks latte! Totally different (or not, but hey, that's what it feels like).
I wish Apple would start allowing time-limited trialware. The IAP machinery is already there, they just have to allow apps that stop working after 30 days if there is no payment. After 30 days, I have a pretty good idea whether an app is worth £1, £10, £50 or 0.
Re: Sunrise is shutting down
#95Once a startup gets bought, I look for alternatives. If they don't shut down, I still learned something new! But usually they do. In this case, I landed on Fantastical [1] — it's a little pricy but completely worth it. (Mac/iOS only.) [1]: https://flexibits.com/fantastical
Slightly shameless self promotion: If you're looking for an Android solution, we're working on TimeFerret, a calendar app that helps you reduce fragmented meeting schedules and track productivity. It's not released yet though. The iOS version will be out first, followed by Android. [1] http://www.timeferret.com
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#96Earlier quoted context omitted.
Another angle... It's sad when we pay $5 for a coffee made in 5 minutes that we'll drink in 3... but not $5 for an app that took 5 months that we'd use daily for a year.
Well, if coffee shops started offering up free coffee with ads on the cup, people wouldn't pay $5 for coffee either.
Most coffee cups already do have ads on them. They have you paying $5 for coffee, AND running around with free ads for them in your hands. And you don't even notice you're a walking billboard for them! Not to mention all that juicy data you're giving them with every CC purchase, or loyalty card swipe...
Re: Sunrise is shutting down
#97The overarching lesson I'm slowly learning is to not get too comfy with any saas products. Who knows how long they'll stick around, regardless of if they're great / popular / profitable.
I actually used Stallman's phrasing "Service as a Software Substitute" in conversation the other day. This pattern is getting ridiculous.
Re: Sunrise is shutting down
#98From their announcement of acqusition: http://blog.sunrise.am/post/110577824529/sunrise-microsoft > Today, we’re excited to announce that Sunrise is joining Microsoft. For Sunrise, this is just the beginning. > Sunrise will remain free and available for iPhone, iPad, Mac, Android and Desktop – we’re not going anywhere.
It was amusing that Sunrise was bought by Microsoft, but still could not connect to either of the Exchange servers I threw at it. Support basically just shrugged at me via email, rough translation being 'it works on my machine.'
Sort of unrelated, but Outlook for Android also still cannot handle recurring all-day events. They will appear in the calendar on incorrect days. Also tested this across multiple servers.
I use Nine for email, which blows Outlook for Android out of the water. Business Calendar 3 is the only Outlook (Desktop) equivalent calendar I've found for Android.
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#99I'm sure this has been asked and answered before, but why do companies acquire startups just to shut their product down within a year so often? Is this just an acquihire? Or do big tech companies just play whack-a-mole with startups, buying any out with interesting products just to make sure they don't one day turn into competition?
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#100They must have had amazing self-control to restrain themselves from titling this "Sunrise is sunsetting".