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Teen birth rate hits all-time low, led by 50% decline among Hispanics and blacks

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Re: Teen birth rate hits all-time low, led by 50% decline among Hispanics and blacks

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"The first is the most important and may be obvious: Today's teens enjoy better access to contraception and more convenient contraception than their predecessors, and more of them are taking advantage of innovations like long-acting injectable and implantable methods that can last years over a daily birth control pill. But the second cause is something that goes against the conventional wisdom. It's that teens -- des…

I would tend to agree. More information about sex (the reproductive "risks" as well as contraception availability, shift in acceptance of oral sex (as alternative when contraception is not available) as well as the acceptance of same-sex sex experimentation by these teenagers as well as young adults.

It's astounding how before the wide availability of information, people believed in "folk" contraception.

Re: Teen birth rate hits all-time low, led by 50% decline among Hispanics and blacks

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"The first is the most important and may be obvious: Today's teens enjoy better access to contraception and more convenient contraception than their predecessors, and more of them are taking advantage of innovations like long-acting injectable and implantable methods that can last years over a daily birth control pill. But the second cause is something that goes against the conventional wisdom. It's that teens -- des…

I would tend to agree. More information about sex (the reproductive "risks" as well as contraception availability, shift in acceptance of oral sex (as alternative when contraception is not available) as well as the acceptance of same-sex sex experimentation by these teenagers as well as young adults. It's astounding how before the wide availability of information, people believed in "folk" contraception.

I'm 35, American, middle class, Northeast of the country. I remember people in my early TEENS who thought you could not become pregnant from your first sexual experience, among other "folk" tales. It is, as you say, astounding. What makes it so absurd though, is that for decades it's been a largely artificial state of ignorance enforced by people who forgot what it was like to be young.

Re: Teen birth rate hits all-time low, led by 50% decline among Hispanics and blacks

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"The first is the most important and may be obvious: Today's teens enjoy better access to contraception and more convenient contraception than their predecessors, and more of them are taking advantage of innovations like long-acting injectable and implantable methods that can last years over a daily birth control pill. But the second cause is something that goes against the conventional wisdom. It's that teens -- des…

This runs counter to the belief that many have that when given higher access to contraceptives, teens will have more sex. Another knock against abstinence-only sex ed!

Perhaps wider access to contraceptives still encourages more sex, but there were other forces even stronger in the other direction?

Re: Teen birth rate hits all-time low, led by 50% decline among Hispanics and blacks

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"The first is the most important and may be obvious: Today's teens enjoy better access to contraception and more convenient contraception than their predecessors, and more of them are taking advantage of innovations like long-acting injectable and implantable methods that can last years over a daily birth control pill. But the second cause is something that goes against the conventional wisdom. It's that teens -- des…

I would tend to agree. More information about sex (the reproductive "risks" as well as contraception availability, shift in acceptance of oral sex (as alternative when contraception is not available) as well as the acceptance of same-sex sex experimentation by these teenagers as well as young adults. It's astounding how before the wide availability of information, people believed in "folk" contraception.

I want to believe in that model for human nature, but I think you would only have a minority of people actively avoiding their parent's mistakes. Too often, things like cycles of bad parenting (from lack of discipline and care, all the way along the spectrum to abuse and neglect) seem to repeat. It's not that people want to do these terrible things as they were done to them, but often we don't know any better or it's what feels familiar.

That, and poverty and bad education are big risk factors for teen pregnancy, and being born to poor, poorly educated people isn't likely to lead to you riches and a fine education.

Re: Teen birth rate hits all-time low, led by 50% decline among Hispanics and blacks

#97

Delaying coitus long enough to consider the economic consequences of an unwanted pregnancy is some pretty hard-core adulting. If I remember anything about that age it was the manic ache to fuck. No, I'm pretty sure access to porn has something to do with it. "widespread availability of broadband Internet" LOL

Hmm. I wonder if there could be some societal change 20 years ago that could have an effect?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_Responsibility_and_Wo...

Re: Teen birth rate hits all-time low, led by 50% decline among Hispanics and blacks

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I am 35 and in the US we had very detailed sex ed including how to use a condom, how wide the contraceptive window was ect starting around 12ish. IMO, this is really more an issue with many local schools being horrible than anything else.

I'm 33 and grew up in the Bible belt. Looking back, I'm shocked at how good my Sex Ed was. We were taught that abstinence was the only 100% effective choice, but also about condoms and birth control pills, as well as things like the sponge (which was not recommended, but still covered) and long term hormonal implants. The biggest misinformation we were given was stuff that was genuinely believed then (and still belie…

> But I am also confused how there are/were actually sexually active teenagers who think things like "Ziploc bags are as effective as condoms".

I had many stupid friends in high school :). But the schools were not highly rated as well. I do remember many new mothers in my 11th and 12th grade years and also a few who were pregnant during the graduation ceremony. So I don't think they did a good job but I don't know how much school education helps compared to at home education in regards to sex ed.

Re: Teen birth rate hits all-time low, led by 50% decline among Hispanics and blacks

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How much actual evidence is there that this has anything to do with contraception? I'm getting old now, and from what I can tell contraception was just as available when I was a teen as it is now.

When I was a teen (10 years ago) a friend of mine was a drug dealer. He dealt morning-after pills to girls who couldn't get them normally.

> drug dealer

"street pharmacist"

Re: Teen birth rate hits all-time low, led by 50% decline among Hispanics and blacks

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am 35 and in the US we had very detailed sex ed including how to use a condom, how wide the contraceptive window was ect starting around 12ish. IMO, this is really more an issue with many local schools being horrible than anything else.

I'm 33 and grew up in the Bible belt. Looking back, I'm shocked at how good my Sex Ed was. We were taught that abstinence was the only 100% effective choice, but also about condoms and birth control pills, as well as things like the sponge (which was not recommended, but still covered) and long term hormonal implants. The biggest misinformation we were given was stuff that was genuinely believed then (and still belie…

I'm 34, and was in a religious, conservative, school. They did one sex ed class (a single one hour, one off thing). In it they mentioned how condoms fail a majority of the time, that you could get pregnant from oral sex (that semen could leak from the digestive tract to reproductive), and that mutual masturbation could also cause pregnancy (as in a guy could ejaculate in just the right way).

It's like they went out of their way to spread misinformation.

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