My father died at 105 and was addicted to chocolate and ice-creams.
My grandfather died at a similar age and he's been a smoker for decades.
Doesn't make smoking any less harmful in my eyes.
The sugar conspiracy: sugar—not fat—is the greatest danger to our health
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Re: The sugar conspiracy: sugar—not fat—is the greatest danger to our health
#92To everyone saying a Keto diet is great, a word of caution. Going Keto gave me kidney stones. I asked my mom, who's had both children and kidney stones, which pain was worse, and she said the pain was about the same, but at least with childbirth you get a few months warning -- stones just show up and give you excruciating pain. So it's great y'all are loosing weight (I did too!) but just be careful and drink a lot of…
Wouldn't adopting a balanced diet that's reasonably low in carbs plus some exercise achieve the desired effect but without fucking shit up in the process? I can't imagine going from a sedentary, high-carb, overweight lifestyle to a radical diet(be it keto or whatever else the person chooses) is easy on the body. Did you get any lab tests done before and after starting the diet? If you did, how did the results compare…
> Did you get any lab tests done before and after starting the diet? If you did, how did the results compare?
Only my normal annual blood test. Cholesterol was down after the diet, everything else was pretty much unchanged. We never caught the stone for analysis, but the diet was pinned as the most likely cause. To be fair, I don't have enough data to say it was the diet for certain, only correlations that people who go on Keto have a higher incidence of stones than those who don't.
Re: The sugar conspiracy: sugar—not fat—is the greatest danger to our health
#93As someone who has shifted to a sugar-free, high-fat lifestyle (keto diet), I can attest to the fact that sugar really is the ultimate evil in terms of health and nutrition. I've lost about 100lbs in 2.5 years... The only thing that I really changed was doing a Keto diet. I've learned a lot about nutrition along the way, and it's amazing how bad nutrition info was when I was growing up.. Common Misconceptions I hear/…
It drove me crazy that people would damn near shame me in to drinking orange juice with breakfast. Might as well ahve been a slurpee.
(Never mind that I skip breakfast 90% of the time anyway, and recent studies indicate this is just fine).
Congrats on your accomplishment; long term weight loss is incredibly hard. I found the simplest way to do it was "eat low-calorie density foods, and only when you're hungry".
Re: The sugar conspiracy: sugar—not fat—is the greatest danger to our health
#94Earlier quoted context omitted.
I wasn't really implying that everyone should start a ketogenic diet. Just stating the success that I've had with it, and also noting several common misconceptions that are still largely heard today.
I didn't say you were implying anything, what I said was I find it astounding how little actual data you seem to have collected, compared to the sweeping conclusions you're drawing. I take issue with your condescending tone, because it doesn't fit whatsoever with your clear ignorance on the topic. I'm particularly sensitive to the topic of food, because people in your situation (who have found success but have no ide…
I mean, it's just a comment on HN, I'm not writing a scientific journal article.
Everything I stated in the original comment is information I have gathered and learned about over the years. Most people haven't read any books about nutrition and how the body works, where I have done a lot of independent research. So I probably know a little bit more about this stuff than the average person. I'm not saying I'm an expert by any stretch, but I'm sure a lot of people on HN could find this information useful, and a good starting point for their own independent research.
And no, I can't site the sources directly, but if you have any specific points you'd like to point as being "errors", feel free to do so, as I'm sure others would be interested.
Like any internet forum, you can always put your opinion in. However you have seemed to only attack my comment, rather than providing any real retort.
Re: The sugar conspiracy: sugar—not fat—is the greatest danger to our health
#95Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is there a difference between natural fruit juice and the kind of "fruit juice" with high levels of marketing behind it e.g. Tropicana?
Big Beverage fruit juice may have added sugar. Regardless, fruit juice (which is fruity sugar water with no fiber), is terrible for us. Fruit was given to us in a high-fiber package, and should be consumed that way. The fiber also ensure we don't over consume. You might be full after 1 apple, which is like 1/8th a glass of apple juice. So eating real fruit, you'll get less sugar, and the fiber helps with digestion an…
Purely anecdotal, sample of one, thing: Eating anything raw feels like free safe guard. Fiber and other nutrients quickly feel bad, your mouth say stop. You rarely eat two apples in a row and wants 2 more. Same for veggies. I believe 90% of cooking is pleasure driven (other than eating / roasting things a bit which helps your stomach apparently) and is detrimental.
Re: The sugar conspiracy: sugar—not fat—is the greatest danger to our health
#96As someone who has shifted to a sugar-free, high-fat lifestyle (keto diet), I can attest to the fact that sugar really is the ultimate evil in terms of health and nutrition. I've lost about 100lbs in 2.5 years... The only thing that I really changed was doing a Keto diet. I've learned a lot about nutrition along the way, and it's amazing how bad nutrition info was when I was growing up.. Common Misconceptions I hear/…
> I've lost about 100lbs in 2.5 years...
Not all of us are trying to lose weight. I'm trying to maintain my weight and sometimes that involves forcing myself to eat.
Re: The sugar conspiracy: sugar—not fat—is the greatest danger to our health
#97As someone who has shifted to a sugar-free, high-fat lifestyle (keto diet), I can attest to the fact that sugar really is the ultimate evil in terms of health and nutrition. I've lost about 100lbs in 2.5 years... The only thing that I really changed was doing a Keto diet. I've learned a lot about nutrition along the way, and it's amazing how bad nutrition info was when I was growing up.. Common Misconceptions I hear/…
Everything you said. I've been treating sugar as personal health enemy #1 for quite a few years now. Note: I am deeply addicted to sugar. It has been absurdly and embarrassingly hard for me to abstain from high sugar foods. I can eat a healthy, high-protein meal, and be full. Yet 30 minutes later, I will feel hungry again. But checking in with my stomach: still full. I can eat a few grams of sugar and feel instantly…
I started taking a probiotic and strangely lost all sugar cravings. I can send you the brand if you want to try it. I'd be curious if others get the same effect.
Edit: I got so many emails I guess I'll just post it here: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00JEKYNZA/
Probably within 24 hours I noticed the effect which makes me kind of skeptical, maybe it's some kind of placebo effect, but I've noticed it many times, and if I go off it, the sugar cravings come back within few weeks.
Re: The sugar conspiracy: sugar—not fat—is the greatest danger to our health
#98Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Most people would have to run 10 miles per day to burn off the garbage they would eat in the morning (think of a young adult having an innocent bowl of cereal and OJ for breakfast) How big is your bowl of cereal? 10 miles of running would be >1000 Calories burned. I don't think I've ever consumed 1000 Calories of cereal and juice in a sitting. I'm also pretty sure most people are not eating 1000 Calories for a typi…
I think close to 1000 is pretty common for breakfast. I used to eat Dunkin Donuts a lot and I would see people order a Bagel with Bacon, Egg and Cheese on it. That is 470 calories. A side of hash browns is another 140. And then top of it off with a donut (350~) and an a large ice coffee (170) and you are over 1000 (I took the calorie # from DD website). Also a single serving of cereal is really small. Until I started…
> I think close to 1000 is pretty common for breakfast. I used to eat Dunkin Donuts a lot and I would see people order a Bagel with Bacon, Egg and Cheese on it. That is 470 calories. A side of hash browns is another 140. And then top of it off with a donut (350~) and an a large ice coffee (170) and you are over 1000 (I took the calorie # from DD website).
This is not a normal breakfast for anyone except the hyperobese or the hyperathletic. A bagel with bacon, egg, and cheese, plus hashbrowns, plus a donut, plus a sugary coffee? Yes, some people eat that much all the time, and yes, many people will eat that much occasionally. I don't think it's a typical-sized breakfast for most people, though. Most people I know don't even eat breakfast, and when they do, a donut+coffee is more realistic for calorie count.
> Also a single serving of cereal is really small. Until I started using a food scale, I was routinely eating 2 servings of cereal (Multi-grain cheerios) which was about 250 calories.
Yeah, cereal servings are unrealistically small. But still, a realistic serving is more like 250, not 750.
Re: The sugar conspiracy: sugar—not fat—is the greatest danger to our health
#99So when can we have stevia into all of our food?
Might be better to just curb the craving for sweetness. Study after study shows no effect of diet sodas vs regular sodas. While artificial sweeteners have a low glycemic index/load, they stimulate the release of related hormones like insulin and GLP-1. And insulin, if you recall, signals fat cells to suck up the energy and grow. So if you drink a diet soda, it might have no calories itself, but it's more likely to co…
I don't think you're correct here.
http://examine.com/faq/do-artificial-sweeteners-spike-insuli...
But even if diet soda DID spike insulin (it doesn't), it would have nothing to do on a low-carb diet because your blood glucose is already very low.
Re: The sugar conspiracy: sugar—not fat—is the greatest danger to our health
#100Earlier quoted context omitted.
If anyone has any questions about starting a keto diet (high-fat, mid-protein, low-carb), feel free to ask. :) Cannot recommend it enough. It simply just works..
How expensive is it? I mean literally. A lot of these alternative diets seem to work but be far more expensive than eating crap, unless all you eat are veggies (which few like).
I found that low-carb diets are way cheaper. There are two factors behind this (in my experience):
1) You eat way, way, way, way less food. I was intensely into keto at probably peak-appetite years (16 - 19 years old) and have since been maintaining a much lower basal carb intake (now 21 years old). A complete dinner used to be large pasta dishes with sausage, garlic bread, a few glasses of milk (I used to be a fanatic), etc., but in keto I'm totally satiated after two small salmon filets. Homefries, toast and a loaded three-egg omelet is actually less satiating for me than two fried eggs with some pepper, and I feel like crap after the former.
I do have a hard time with vegetables because I don't shop often enough for them not to go to waste, but I'll usually handle that with a salad for lunch.
2) In the event that you really do need to eat very cheaply (Ramen level cheap), you can do that too. I've had periods where I'd rely on string cheese, peanut butter, and eggs almost exclusively. Not proud of it, but better than boxes of pasta IMO.
If you put up with the initial withdrawals from sugar, "keto flu," you'll find that you'll eat less food and feel better.