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Re: Vivaldi Browser 1.0

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That analogy makes no sense. "standalone applications" running on what? a non-smart phone? that would make the phone smart.

I think the humorous type of "standalone application" in this analogy would be a physical camera, a physical address book etc.

But right after that they say "or other devices". So my question is: Where is this standalone application, that can apparently do what a smartphone does, running on? It's apparently not an "other device".

Re: Vivaldi Browser 1.0

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> Well, I didn't care much for torrent and email in Opera 12, but they didn't bother me either, as they didn't seem to spend any resources when they were not used. That's true, but they surely spent their resources on developing these extensions. In hindsight, this wasn't such a good bet. Case in point: noone else did that, and this approach is rather outdated now.

Not entirely true with the email as it was also (or only I guess) used as RSS reader by many people.

So-called "superusers" are probably overrepresented in your circles (as in mine), and thus your point of view is kind of skewed ;) Ask your family members or people on the street, an overwhelming majority of regular internet users won't have a slightest clue what an RSS reader even is

Re: Vivaldi Browser 1.0

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FWIW there are bits of the code here, but I don't know what is the extent of it https://vivaldi.com/source/

The browser is proprietary, but includes open source components, without checking, what you've linked to above is probably just the open source bits.

I'm honestly curious as to who'd move to a proprietary browser in 2016 given all the history of the last couple of decades!

Re: Vivaldi Browser 1.0

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Given the browser is one of the most used pieces of software, and we increasingly live our digital lives in to, the more competition the better. When was the last time you saw significant innovation in a browser? It seems a while, and I dont believe we're run out of things to improve. More competition is awesome. And dont forget competition encourages the big browser companies to work together to maintain interoperab…

Unless I am missing something. We have seen some major improvements and innovations in the browsing world from major competition even since Chrome entered the market. Your definition of innovation might be different, but both IE and Firefox have gone through major changes for the better ever since chrome entered the scene.

I guess this comes to ones definition of recent. Chrome launched 8 years ago - how fast time goes! I dont know how closely you followed browser news at that time but there was a constant fight for features and faster browsing in the few years before/after that launch. And it's not like nothing has happened since that time but it does seem to have slowed significantly the last few years. I'd love to see that passion return to the wider market. There must be so many features we cant even think of that will become 'how did I live without that' yet invented for such a core piece of software category.

Re: Vivaldi Browser 1.0

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post #82

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Unless I am missing something. We have seen some major improvements and innovations in the browsing world from major competition even since Chrome entered the market. Your definition of innovation might be different, but both IE and Firefox have gone through major changes for the better ever since chrome entered the scene.

I guess this comes to ones definition of recent. Chrome launched 8 years ago - how fast time goes! I dont know how closely you followed browser news at that time but there was a constant fight for features and faster browsing in the few years before/after that launch. And it's not like nothing has happened since that time but it does seem to have slowed significantly the last few years. I'd love to see that passion r…

Major rewrite and redesign takes time even for the world largest software company, in the past 8 years or so both MSFT IE and Firefox has gone through major rewrites in their js engine, rendering engines and UI. Chrome on its part forked webkit so that they can make changes and add feature faster, which was not possible before.

Making browsing and maintaining your own rendering engine is not easy which is why we don't have a lot of competition in the this market.

Re: Vivaldi Browser 1.0

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The browser is proprietary, but includes open source components, without checking, what you've linked to above is probably just the open source bits.

I'm honestly curious as to who'd move to a proprietary browser in 2016 given all the history of the last couple of decades!

It's still using an open source rendering engine, which I think is the important bit, it's just the container that is proprietary.

Re: Vivaldi Browser 1.0

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The browser is proprietary, but includes open source components, without checking, what you've linked to above is probably just the open source bits.

I'm honestly curious as to who'd move to a proprietary browser in 2016 given all the history of the last couple of decades!

Google, for one. Chromium is an open-source project, but Chrome is and has always been proprietary.
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