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Aquaris M10 Ubuntu Tablet – Pre-order

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Re: Aquaris M10 Ubuntu Tablet – Pre-order

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Post by takno »

netcan wrote: post #71

" A tablet when you want it, a PC when you need it " I'm not sure if I'm being naive, but it seems to me that for a decade, the laptop market has had a ridiculous hole. There is a market for something which is not windows, at a sub $500-$600 price that is good. Tablet UI, desktop, whatever. Something that can run skype, whatsapp, tinder and the other network-effect apps that can replace their 3 year old home laptop a…

Isn't this exactly what all those Chromebooks are? I mean they haven't exactly set the world on fire, but they exist.

Re: Aquaris M10 Ubuntu Tablet – Pre-order

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Post by JupiterMoon »

jonknee wrote: post #55
tgb wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you buy a lot of tablets or do you find most to have unacceptable battery life? The battery on my 2013 Nexus 7 is crazy good as far as I can tell and lasts for days of moderate use even two years into its life span. Compared to my phone which likes to die partway through the day even without me touching it.

I imagine it's Linux that causes the concern. Android and iOS are very highly optimized for mobile power management while Ubuntu is not.

Did Google not start to mainline their kernel changes?

Re: Aquaris M10 Ubuntu Tablet – Pre-order

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Post by balamaci »

edent wrote: post #54
mtw wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So you can install and run nginx, redis, Atom.io, postgres etc. on this?

Yes. It's a full Linux machine. Well, that's what I've been told - we'll see once they ship.

I wonder how hard it's to program running a remote desktop connection to a desktop computer at home. I run Intellij Idea for java dev, so no way I can run on the tablet considering the battery drain.

It would be nice to program in the park by just bringing the tablet and a keyboard. On the other hand the latency alone might distract me enough to just give up.

Re: Aquaris M10 Ubuntu Tablet – Pre-order

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Post by wazoox »

takno wrote: post #91
netcan wrote: post #71

" A tablet when you want it, a PC when you need it " I'm not sure if I'm being naive, but it seems to me that for a decade, the laptop market has had a ridiculous hole. There is a market for something which is not windows, at a sub $500-$600 price that is good. Tablet UI, desktop, whatever. Something that can run skype, whatsapp, tinder and the other network-effect apps that can replace their 3 year old home laptop a…

Isn't this exactly what all those Chromebooks are? I mean they haven't exactly set the world on fire, but they exist.

The Chromebooks replaced a bunch of Ubuntu-powered machines, and they are significantly inferior in all and every aspects, unless you're using Crouton or Gallium. File management is abysmal, and the OS is overall pretty buggy, in the last week I've met: impossible to clear browsing history, Chromecast extension keeps disappearing between reboots, problems with volume or brightness settings, Wifi woes...

Chrome OS feels really unpolished and a bit forgotten.

Re: Aquaris M10 Ubuntu Tablet – Pre-order

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Post by rlpb »

mtw wrote: post #43
edent wrote: post #38

Just ordered one. I had a chat to the BQ team in London recently. They're selling CyanogenMod Android phones as well. The CEO was quite clear that flashing a new OS wasn't going to void the warranty. I didn't get to play with their Ubuntu tablets, but their Android ones are well built, responsive, and have very clear screens. This isn't going to replace your totally tricked-out MacBook - but as a portable web-browser…

So you can install and run nginx, redis, Atom.io, postgres etc. on this?

Not in a "supported" way. If it's anything like Ubuntu on phones, it will be a read-only filesystem with image-based updates. apt is available, but only if you remount the system read-write (you do have root via sudo). If you do that, then you can't use image-based updates any more, since that'll stomp over your changes.

I'm in favour of this arrangement, since I think it's the only way to get updates to work reliably, and I think that's essential. Android and iOS also do it this way, for example. But don't expect a traditional Linux-based desktop but on a tablet, since that's not what you'll get.

On the other hand, if you package up nginx, redis, Atom.io, postgres etc. via Ubuntu's app store, then sure.

Re: Aquaris M10 Ubuntu Tablet – Pre-order

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Post by jason46 »

green7ea wrote: post #53

I want to be really excited by this because this seems very cool but the mediatek processor and the 2 GB of RAM makes this a lot less interesting. Mediatek usually provides a closed off, low price, low performance chip which kind of clashes with what I want from an Ubuntu device.

I thought the bummer was the 2GB of ram and 16GB of storage..

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mediatek-MT8165-Tablet-SoC.1484...

Re: Aquaris M10 Ubuntu Tablet – Pre-order

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Post by Splines »

netcan wrote: post #71

" A tablet when you want it, a PC when you need it " I'm not sure if I'm being naive, but it seems to me that for a decade, the laptop market has had a ridiculous hole. There is a market for something which is not windows, at a sub $500-$600 price that is good. Tablet UI, desktop, whatever. Something that can run skype, whatsapp, tinder and the other network-effect apps that can replace their 3 year old home laptop a…

Can you elaborate more? Given your requirements any modern tablet should be a suitable fit. I have a 7" Android tablet that basically runs anything my phone can run with the upside that I can watch movies on it.

Re: Aquaris M10 Ubuntu Tablet – Pre-order

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Post by FD3SA »

pitchroll wrote: post #11

The linked page states it's using Ubuntu 15.04 as OS, however 15.04 is marked as EOL-ed on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases Is there an easy OS upgrade path? I wonder why they did not go with an LTS release, 16.04 is just around the corner in April and would probably serve their release better.

This is the main thing that jumped out at me. Any Ubuntu other than an LTS is not meant for end-users, as it is deprecated in 6 months.

Why did they go this route instead of 16.04 LTS?

Re: Aquaris M10 Ubuntu Tablet – Pre-order

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Post by lqdc13 »

bcook wrote: post #72
green7ea wrote: post #53

I want to be really excited by this because this seems very cool but the mediatek processor and the 2 GB of RAM makes this a lot less interesting. Mediatek usually provides a closed off, low price, low performance chip which kind of clashes with what I want from an Ubuntu device.

What was your intended use of an Ubuntu tablet? Server-farm? Gaming? I am pretty excited, but it is Linux on a tablet , which is kinda the worst of the worst from a performance perspective. Hopefully this marks the beginning of an increasing trend of more open & capable Operating Systems on our mobile devices.

I'm concerned the browser will crash after you open 3 tabs.

Ubuntu Desktop is really really memory hungry. It is currently using 8gb RAM on my Desktop which has been steadily increasing since last restart.

The only thing you can possibly do on this thing is use a not very power hungry text editor. No VMs, no machine learning, no data processing and no games. If they had maybe 8gb RAM, 128 gb storage with a faster CPU, it might have been interesting.

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