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2016 Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results

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Re: 2016 Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results

#92
post #88

Am I really that much of an outlier in loving coffeescript? I know a lot of people don't like the extra translation effort to debugging, and some aren't fond of significant whitespace, but I'm surprised that that's enough to make it into the top 5 most dreaded . Is there something else I'm missing?

I would assume it got "downvoted" by JavaScript developers that had to deal with it at some point.

(I personally prefer coffeescript)

Re: 2016 Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results

#93
post #4

> for the third year in a row, "full-stack developer" was the most common response [for occupation] Might be a loaded question, but doesn't full-stack mean just "web developer"? From the survey, "Full-stack developers are comfortable coding with 5 to 6 major languages or frameworks (vs. 4 for everyone else)" -- with knowing a bit of Wordpress that's fairly easy to collect: php, sql, html, javascript, css. Done. Or fu…

It is a matter of self-identification. I take the phrase with a large dose of irony. If someone calls themselves a full-stack developer, I assume they mean "JS/CSS/HTML//SQL" and this is especially likely in this case, since it's a SO poll.

But I still want some sense of awareness of the many layers on which web systems rest.

"Oh you're a full-stack developer? Great! In this job interview we will be designing a new TCP retransmission algorithm, configuring a CI/CD pipeline, debugging CPU microcode, negotiating with a law enforcement agency, and testing the FM200 system in the DC"

Re: 2016 Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results

#95

It's interesting to see that over 34.5% of developers surveyed use some flavor of a JetBrains IDE: Intellij - 17% PhpStorm - 7.4% PyCharm - 6.8% RubyMine - 1.7% WebStorm - 1.6% --- Total - 34.5% This makes the Intellij IDE the third most used environment surveyed. If you're not using a text editor, chances are you're using a JetBrains IDE. I'd be interested in seeing the text editor vs IDE breakdown (broken down by a…

Don't forget about Android Studio at 13%

http://blog.jetbrains.com/idea/2013/05/intellij-idea-and-and...

Re: 2016 Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results

#96
post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What has changed in the limitations of the DOM?

Perhaps not in the limitations of the DOM, but how we deal with it is changing.

Their arguments are just as valid as then. Web interfaces will never be as rich as desktop ones. Cloud connected desktop applications will gain a lot of momentum going forward.

Re: 2016 Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results

#97

Very happy to see Scala both in the "Loved" and also in the "top salaries in US", and same goes for Apache Spark. I made a bet on Scala more than 5 years ago and it finally starts to pay off... although the Scala job pool is only a fraction of the JS one.

Here I thought it was referring to the Spark programming language.

Re: 2016 Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results

#98
Atom adoption among SO developers increased from 2% in 2015 to 12% in 2016. VS Code is at 7.2% and it's not even out of beta.

Both Atom and VS Code are built on Electron so it seems that web tech for building code editors and IDEs is getting really popular.

Re: 2016 Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results

#99
post #4

> for the third year in a row, "full-stack developer" was the most common response [for occupation] Might be a loaded question, but doesn't full-stack mean just "web developer"? From the survey, "Full-stack developers are comfortable coding with 5 to 6 major languages or frameworks (vs. 4 for everyone else)" -- with knowing a bit of Wordpress that's fairly easy to collect: php, sql, html, javascript, css. Done. Or fu…

I think it's more of a distinction with 'front-end developer', who is someone that works exclusively on the front-end - e.g. angular, ember, react, etc. This role barely existed 5+ years ago, and every web developer was more of a full-stack developer. Nowadays you could focus only on the front-end side and not need bother with a back-end ever.

Actually I see this as reversed, 5 years ago there were a lot more front-end developers (or just web developers then), since it was fairly common to create static sites with little or not interactivity, and if you had a fat client it was in flash (also a front-end only technology, mostly).

I don't think people writing some scripts in PHP would have considered themselves full-stack or back-end.

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