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Amazon Echo, home alone with NPR on, got confused and hijacked a thermostat

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Re: Amazon Echo, home alone with NPR on, got confused and hijacked a thermostat

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I think they need to pick a different name. 'Alexa' is very easy to trigger with other names, and reliably activates when I am watching any show with a character named 'Alex', 'Alexy', etc. One side effect I've noticed is that they seem to have tried to account for it, which has made the Echo less responsive to actual requests; a few times I've stood in front of it yelling 'ALEXA' trying to get it to stop and it does…

Adolph isn't very commonly used any more.

Re: Amazon Echo, home alone with NPR on, got confused and hijacked a thermostat

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I think they need to pick a different name. 'Alexa' is very easy to trigger with other names, and reliably activates when I am watching any show with a character named 'Alex', 'Alexy', etc. One side effect I've noticed is that they seem to have tried to account for it, which has made the Echo less responsive to actual requests; a few times I've stood in front of it yelling 'ALEXA' trying to get it to stop and it does…

Strange that she's "Alexa" to begin with. "Echo" seems like a pretty strong brand, good enough for the hardware at least, and would be a perfectly fine name for the AI as well.

Re: Amazon Echo, home alone with NPR on, got confused and hijacked a thermostat

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post #23

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Fuck that shut. If airplane mode is turned on and my GPS disabled as I'm close to the my right turn you better believe I'll be distracted. A better solution would be a true hands free mode that prevented touch input from working while driving.

Does airplane mode disable the GPS? GPS is a passive receiving of radiowaves, so I'm guessing not? (according to Apple, prior to 8.2 it did turn it off. https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204234 )

There's almost no such thing as a passive radio anymore... superheterodyne receivers are the norm now and they contain a local oscillator that can leak back out into the airwaves.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superheterodyne_receiver

Re: Amazon Echo, home alone with NPR on, got confused and hijacked a thermostat

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I think they need to pick a different name. 'Alexa' is very easy to trigger with other names, and reliably activates when I am watching any show with a character named 'Alex', 'Alexy', etc. One side effect I've noticed is that they seem to have tried to account for it, which has made the Echo less responsive to actual requests; a few times I've stood in front of it yelling 'ALEXA' trying to get it to stop and it does…

Adolph isn't very commonly used any more.

The user should be able to pick one of these three convenient yet uncommon phrases:

- Yo Hitler

- Hello Mussolini

- Hey Stalin

Re: Amazon Echo, home alone with NPR on, got confused and hijacked a thermostat

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siri has itself trained to a single user's voice. I've never had anyone else's voice activate my phone with "Hey Siri". Admittedly, it usually takes me saying "Hey Siri" 3 times before it recognizes my voice, but I'm 100% certain a radio ad would get no response from my phone.

My wife's phone regularly (maybe once a month), starts listening in response to me saying something, which isn't even "Hey Siri", despite never training with my voice. My voice does not sound anything like my wife's. So, I think the error rate is simply not low enough to make conclusive claims about what it might or might not do.

Better stock up on those tinfoils.

Re: Amazon Echo, home alone with NPR on, got confused and hijacked a thermostat

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Siri is definitely not trained to a single voice. And yes, the car radio can turn it on. I've had a podcast discussion of Siri trigger it. It became such a joke that some podcasters have another phrase they say when they mean "hey Siri".

Since the iPhone 6S, Hey Siri is activated by a dedicated chip in the SoC. This enables low-power real-time detection of trigger words. Before, Hey Siri only worked with phones in the process of charging, because it was done with software, so a lot less efficient. These voice-activated chips can be trained (as seen in a lot of other phones), but I'm not sure the software-powered Siri can be trained.

"Trained" is a bit of a joke with voice-activation. I've never seen it matter in practice.

Re: Amazon Echo, home alone with NPR on, got confused and hijacked a thermostat

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Adolph isn't very commonly used any more.

The user should be able to pick one of these three convenient yet uncommon phrases: - Yo Hitler - Hello Mussolini - Hey Stalin

With a Kinect, you should be able to extend your right arm in the air with a straightened hand to issue a command. That would be popular with people who've sworn their allegiance to Drumph.

Re: Amazon Echo, home alone with NPR on, got confused and hijacked a thermostat

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This reminds me of one of my favorite quotes from Douglas Adams in the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. A man not just ahead of his time, but humorous about it too. > The machine was rather difficult to operate. For years radios had been operated by means of pressing buttons and turning dials; then as the technology became more sophisticated the controls were made touch-sensitive—you merely had to brush the panels w…

At my old office we had a mini Xbox360 with a touch-(over-)sensitive disc eject button. Suppose somebody was playing a game and they invited you to join as player 2: you might then naturally reach for the second joypad that was on the same TV stand as the Xbox. And that damn button would spot your hand, and the disc tray would eject, and the Xbox would reboot. (The ridiculous part of the whole thing was that this hap…

The Xbox One is just as bad - the power button can be triggered even if you don't actually touch it (triggers from about 0.5-1cm away).

Re: Amazon Echo, home alone with NPR on, got confused and hijacked a thermostat

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Toyota ran an anti-distracted driving radio ad where they did this. The ad narrator says "Hey Siri, please turn airplane mode on." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqZBVTMrgFA

That actually seems kind of dangerous. It could cause people to pull out their phones to check whether the ad actually turned airplane mode on.

It would only work if the iPhone was plugged into power AND they had turned on the capability for Siri to be activated by voice, which is limited to when the iPhone is plugged in.

I know Android users might not understand this limitation, but there it is.

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