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What's the Best Cloud? Probably GCP

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Re: What's the Best Cloud? Probably GCP

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pbreit wrote: post #74
StreamBright wrote: post #23

I am not sure about the technical merit of this link. Best of show: "Google probably has the best networking technology on the planet." How do we quantify this? "This is important for several reasons. On EC2, if a node has a hardware problem, it will likely mean that you'll need to restart your virtual machine." I would much rather create a service that can tolerate single node outages than relying on "live migration…

Author provided a lot of information. I wouldn't call it a "hand wavy" article at all.

Well, providing lots of information vs. providing meaningful in-depth analysis are very different. I see your point though.

Re: What's the Best Cloud? Probably GCP

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Eugr wrote: post #75

They forgot to mention another nice feature of GCE - custom machine types. You can choose number of vCPUs and amount of memory and also the amount of local (ephemeral in AWS speak) storage in 375GB increments. This is a huge advantage. For instance, some of our jobs are computationally-intensive but relatively light on memory. In GCE I can run 32 core machine with 28GB RAM and it will cost me $887.68/month (without a…

This is good to know, I was running into the problem of not having the right instance type for my workload before. We ended up changing up our stack to make it fit better on AWS.

Re: What's the Best Cloud? Probably GCP

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brianwawok wrote: post #39
partiallypro wrote: post #8

"Azure was eliminated since its a Linux-second cloud" I have a feeling this person never really dove into Azure, and just wrote it off because it had Microsoft services built in; and of course various sysadmins still have a strong bias against Microsoft, especially if they are Open Source advocates. Seems like the entire article is mostly just comparing AWS to GCP instead of giving an actual overview of the cloud lan…

Honest question. If you are a 100% linux shop, what do you gain with Azure? Do they have better linux chops than GCE or AWS?

You gain the exact same things as you gain on other cloud platforms. You do not need to worry about the followings:

- data center power

- data center networking

- hardware provisioning

I don't think they are better thn GCE or AWS in terms of Linux support (maybe minor things) but they are not significantly worse either. What comes after that, pricing, machine types etc. is a different question. I see lots of companies using Azure because they got free credit for it.

Re: What's the Best Cloud? Probably GCP

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sunsu wrote: post #92

Unless you rely on UDP!!! https://code.google.com/p/google-compute-engine/issues/detai... We had a gold level support ticket open about this for months and they recently responded that they are making it a "feature request". Yes, proper UDP packet reassembly is a " feature request".

Not all the clouds are equal. :) DC networking is much fun, even when you are on SDNs.

Re: What's the Best Cloud? Probably GCP

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johansch wrote: post #38
cortesoft wrote: post #4

My main concern with picking GCP would be that Google has a history of shutting down projects. I feel like they are more likely to shutter GCP than Amazon is with AWS.

http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/10/30/amazon-shutting-dow... http://www.cpcstrategy.com/blog/2015/08/amazon-product-ads-d... http://www.cpcstrategy.com/blog/2015/10/amazon-text-ads-disc... http://www.cnbc.com/2015/09/09/amazon-discontinues-disappoin... http://uk.businessinsider.com/amazon-discontinues-amazon-ele... :)

Nice, is there anything in the AWS side of the business that was shut down? I can't remember if there was.

Re: What's the Best Cloud? Probably GCP

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Post by mikecb »

AdamN wrote: post #76
defen wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For me, GCP comes with unquantifiable existence risk. As in, how do I know that it won't get shut down in 5 years when some VP sees that it's not bringing in as much money as it should? I trust Amazon more in this regard, and their offering is not "so bad" that I feel a need to switch.

Existence risk here is HUGE. If GCP doesn't move the needle, Google will shut it down. AWS is a much more living organism and I can't see Amazon shutting it down before their drones take over ...

To shut down GCP, they would be shutting down the same services and infrastructure that power their own services. The dogfooding memo from years back is being taken to heart, and you're seeing more and more exposure of internal services and infrastructure.

The scary thing would be if it ends up reducing the rate of innovation because they worry about changing APIs or services too much; obsolete accumulates quickly when you're serving large numbers of people because most business want to write once run till it's dead. But this is true of any service that exposes anything but an extreme abstraction.

Re: What's the Best Cloud? Probably GCP

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Post by boulos »

brazzledazzle wrote: post #11
cortesoft wrote: post #4

My main concern with picking GCP would be that Google has a history of shutting down projects. I feel like they are more likely to shutter GCP than Amazon is with AWS.

I think if they demonstrate that they dogfood it the way Amazon does it will go a long way. Based on talks I've seen I know some internal teams use it (or at least did when it was free for them).

We don't talk about our own usage a lot, because we mostly care about customers (like Quizlet!) talking about their usage in their own terms. However, I personally worked with Chrome's Clusterfuzz team when we launched Preemptible VMs (https://cloudplatform.googleblog.com/2015/05/Introducing-Pre...) and they're still there today.

Disclosure: I work on Compute Engine (and launched Preemptible VMs).

Re: What's the Best Cloud? Probably GCP

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Post by boulos »

jvehent wrote: post #28
gregmac wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Actually 150th in the US and 794th world-wide, according to Alexa: http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/quizlet.com Not to say 150th isn't impressive or likely a lot of traffic.. but if you're going to post a number and claim like that, it should be accurate.

> Not to say 150th isn't impressive or likely a lot of traffic.. Ballpark, I'd say that's between 700 and 1,000 hits/second on the main frontend. I sort of doubt either AWS or GCP is so much faster than the other for this kind of load.

They mentioned 200k/minute (just over 3k/second) in the post.
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