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Gmailify: The best of Gmail, without an gmail address

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Re: Gmailify: The best of Gmail, without an gmail address

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So mixed messages again. Is 'Inbox' the next-gen Gmail interface or a hobby project that will get closed down in a year? Momentum has slowed and I've become so dependent on it's workflow I'd be gutted if this was the case. However - I don't believe Google will maintain two email clients in perpetuity. On past experience - they'll fold the functionality of one into the other - partially and imperfectly leaving users i…

I got a toast notification in gmail that asked me to permanently redirect Gmail to Inbox. I believe that answered the questions for myself what direction that are heading.

Remember when Google was toasting away to get everyone to use Hangouts for SMS? A few weeks ago, I got a toast in Hangouts asking me to use their new SMS-only Messenger app. You never know.

Re: Gmailify: The best of Gmail, without an gmail address

#92
post #65

This means that Yahoo and Outlook users have access to Google Now email-based cards before those of us using Google Apps.

Google Apps supports Google Now email-based cards. It needs to be enabled by your Google Apps administrator.

It is in fact possible to get full Google Now functionality in a Google Apps domain. I've had it working for a long while.

Go to the Google Apps Admin Console (https://admin.google.com/AdminHome).

Navigate to Apps > Additional Google Services

You'll see a gray bar at the top of the screen ("Filter: Top featured services"). Click the "X" on the top right to disable that filter.

Scroll down to "Web History" and select "On for everyone."

Each user may then need to also enable Web History for his or her own account (https://www.google.com/settings/accounthistory/search).

No, it shouldn't be that hard, but, yes, that will work.

Re: Gmailify: The best of Gmail, without an gmail address

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post #70
post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

N1 supports connecting to all the major email providers, as well as pretty much every obscure IMAP server run by your ISP! What's pointed out in the FAQ is just that it uses a cloud service component (also open source! http://github.com/nylas/sync-engine ) that we developed first to make it easier to build clients.

Warning to anyone trying to self-host: Despite N1 calling their cloud engine "open source", the authentication part isn’t – and isn’t included. If you set up the open source variant yourself, you’ll end up without any authentication.

When you say authentication, do you mean the cloud engine doesn't authenticate against your email providers, or that the desktop client doesn't authenticate against the cloud engine?

Re: Gmailify: The best of Gmail, without an gmail address

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post #93
post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Warning to anyone trying to self-host: Despite N1 calling their cloud engine "open source", the authentication part isn’t – and isn’t included. If you set up the open source variant yourself, you’ll end up without any authentication.

When you say authentication, do you mean the cloud engine doesn't authenticate against your email providers, or that the desktop client doesn't authenticate against the cloud engine?

I mean that there is no password between desktop client and the open source cloud engine – anyone can log in to it just like that.

The tokens to auth are world-readable under /accounts or /n

Re: Gmailify: The best of Gmail, without an gmail address

#95
post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The absolutely dreadful UI?

I've switched to Google Inbox rather than Gmail but I'd still be happier with Gmail than any other webmail - and nearly any desktop mail client (although I've seen a few glimpses of next-gen clients that have the potential to change my mind). How would you justify that it's 'dreadful'? Am I just deluded?

I'm talking about the web interface. Have to click a button for cc, have to click a (hidden) button to change the subject matter, it's incredibly easy to not notice attachments, the threading I kinda just don't get, having to click "more" to see the link for spam, I could go on and on but that gives you some ideas.

Re: Gmailify: The best of Gmail, without an gmail address

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Is it using Push-IMAP? Because your IMAP accounts in your regular @gmail.com account often has a delay like 30 minutes or more.

That delay you talking about depend on how often you get new mail on particular account as gmail trying to not check account every minute if it's only get mail once a week. Though delay can be really low if you get new mail every few minutes.

And you can artificially decrease it by setting simple script that would send some random mail to that account and then just filter it on gmail-side.

Re: Gmailify: The best of Gmail, without an gmail address

#99
post #54

I assume that under the hood, they've just set up Gmail as an IMAP client that accesses your other account?

Indeed. The Gmail app itself has been able to act as an IMAP client before, but (as it's purely client side) this mode doesn't offer all Gmail features and is quite battery and bandwidth intensive as IMAP wasn't really designed for mobile devices. With Gmailify, the IMAP synchronization happens on Google servers, which also do normal spam detection and categorization, and the phone accesses the data like any normal G…

> IMAP (...) quite battery and bandwidth intensive

not true at all. You should change your shitty app

Re: Gmailify: The best of Gmail, without an gmail address

#100
"Gmailify links your existing account to Gmail" -- okaaay. At least it's stated clearly in this case. The whole merge-with-Google thing (which they've also been known to do as opt-out, albeit not in this particular case) is exactly the reason why I'm avoiding a lot of Google's services, and why I respect (and trust) Microsoft more in recent years. It just saddens me that Outlook for Android is so bad in some things, it's basically unusable (e.g. you can't follow links from emails).
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