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Re: Twitter's new timeline feature

#91

I think twitter would be better off embracing lists. I follow relatively few people because of the firehose effect. My attitude towards the people I follow is that I like seeing their tweets, but I don't really care if I miss them. News would be a good example of this. It's great to get news or sports tweets in the moment, but they're probably not tweets I'm going to go back through later to find out what happened. O…

I feel like this has already been real-world tested, and manual sorting loses to algorithms. Facebook had categories or lists (can't remember what they called them) and few people used them. Google+ had the "circles" as a key differentiator vs. Facebook, and it did not help them compete at all. I think social media lists are one of those ideas that seems great in theory, but whose value is dynamically unstable in rea…

Email is usually sorted manually, I think.

Re: Twitter's new timeline feature

#92
post #86

I know I'm going against the grain here but I think a feature like this actually makes a lot of sense. Maybe I am not as heavy a Twitter user as other people here, but I hate how easily I can miss important tweets if I just don't check my feed for a few hours. Since I am also on a different time zone than many people I follow, I end up having to catch up on hours of tweets every morning by scrolling down the page for…

The problem here is the assumption that the algorithm will do a half decent job at showing you important tweets. Judging by the facebook algorithm, which is utterly terrible at showing important stuff, it seems unlikely. Just another step in the facebookification of twitter to appease short term oriented shareholders who rated the growth too highly. It is already a mess, can't see how adding this will improve the sit…

I left facebook for this exact reason. the platform has diminished so greatly that it's now virtually unusable to me.I'm really not sure what to equate the experience to, it feels like trying to read a newspaper that is all ads. It's all vapid useless sales instead of meaningful interpersonal connections over long distances... the way it started. I fear twitter is not far behind.

Re: Twitter's new timeline feature

#93
post #86

I know I'm going against the grain here but I think a feature like this actually makes a lot of sense. Maybe I am not as heavy a Twitter user as other people here, but I hate how easily I can miss important tweets if I just don't check my feed for a few hours. Since I am also on a different time zone than many people I follow, I end up having to catch up on hours of tweets every morning by scrolling down the page for…

The problem here is the assumption that the algorithm will do a half decent job at showing you important tweets. Judging by the facebook algorithm, which is utterly terrible at showing important stuff, it seems unlikely. Just another step in the facebookification of twitter to appease short term oriented shareholders who rated the growth too highly. It is already a mess, can't see how adding this will improve the sit…

How is it terrible exactly? Works great for me.

Re: Twitter's new timeline feature

#94

I know I'm going against the grain here but I think a feature like this actually makes a lot of sense. Maybe I am not as heavy a Twitter user as other people here, but I hate how easily I can miss important tweets if I just don't check my feed for a few hours. Since I am also on a different time zone than many people I follow, I end up having to catch up on hours of tweets every morning by scrolling down the page for…

I honestly don't know how people can follow hundreds of accounts and stay sane. I "follow" like 6 accounts and I can't keep up! I use twitter very casually and hardly ever twit something about myself at all (if ever). I mostly just respond to someone else's twit or fave the ones I find clever or funny. I don't even use twitter's home page at all because it's filled with noise. I rather just visit the accounts (not necessarily ones I "follow") individually depending on what I want to read about.

Re: Twitter's new timeline feature

#95
post #4

Is that the annoying "While you were away" feature that I have been closing several times a day in the past weeks? I would like to disable it forever but there is no such option.

I actually really like "while you were away," but from the blog post, I can't tell if/how this new feature is different.

Re: Twitter's new timeline feature

#96

I think twitter would be better off embracing lists. I follow relatively few people because of the firehose effect. My attitude towards the people I follow is that I like seeing their tweets, but I don't really care if I miss them. News would be a good example of this. It's great to get news or sports tweets in the moment, but they're probably not tweets I'm going to go back through later to find out what happened. O…

I feel like this has already been real-world tested, and manual sorting loses to algorithms. Facebook had categories or lists (can't remember what they called them) and few people used them. Google+ had the "circles" as a key differentiator vs. Facebook, and it did not help them compete at all. I think social media lists are one of those ideas that seems great in theory, but whose value is dynamically unstable in rea…

Does anybody know how Multireddits are working out? I personally use them extensively, but I've never seen any data on how successful they've been overall.

Re: Twitter's new timeline feature

#97
post #86

I know I'm going against the grain here but I think a feature like this actually makes a lot of sense. Maybe I am not as heavy a Twitter user as other people here, but I hate how easily I can miss important tweets if I just don't check my feed for a few hours. Since I am also on a different time zone than many people I follow, I end up having to catch up on hours of tweets every morning by scrolling down the page for…

The problem here is the assumption that the algorithm will do a half decent job at showing you important tweets. Judging by the facebook algorithm, which is utterly terrible at showing important stuff, it seems unlikely. Just another step in the facebookification of twitter to appease short term oriented shareholders who rated the growth too highly. It is already a mess, can't see how adding this will improve the sit…

I actually think Twitter's "while you were away" does a great job finding things I care about.

Re: Twitter's new timeline feature

#98

I know I'm going against the grain here but I think a feature like this actually makes a lot of sense. Maybe I am not as heavy a Twitter user as other people here, but I hate how easily I can miss important tweets if I just don't check my feed for a few hours. Since I am also on a different time zone than many people I follow, I end up having to catch up on hours of tweets every morning by scrolling down the page for…

The Discover tab (added in 2012 https://blog.twitter.com/2012/discover-better-stories and removed in 2015 https://blog.twitter.com/2015/updating-trends-on-mobile) solved this problem much more elegantly. Now it's a setting most people won't find, can't be shown on demand.

The "While You Were Away" view has been really frustrating to me, because I follow thousands of people and appreciate a summary, but if I accidentally click off it to Mentions I can't get it back. The Discover tab was great because I could click on it whenever I wanted.

Re: Twitter's new timeline feature

#99
post #97
post #86

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The problem here is the assumption that the algorithm will do a half decent job at showing you important tweets. Judging by the facebook algorithm, which is utterly terrible at showing important stuff, it seems unlikely. Just another step in the facebookification of twitter to appease short term oriented shareholders who rated the growth too highly. It is already a mess, can't see how adding this will improve the sit…

I actually think Twitter's "while you were away" does a great job finding things I care about.

Yeah same here.

Re: Twitter's new timeline feature

#100
post #93
post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem here is the assumption that the algorithm will do a half decent job at showing you important tweets. Judging by the facebook algorithm, which is utterly terrible at showing important stuff, it seems unlikely. Just another step in the facebookification of twitter to appease short term oriented shareholders who rated the growth too highly. It is already a mess, can't see how adding this will improve the sit…

How is it terrible exactly? Works great for me.

As one current example:

I just logged in to fb (Android app) for the first time today and was shown a post shared by a friend. I left a commmment and was shown a weird message "will be shown once online". Never seen it before, but no problem I just need to check my comment went through. Too bad! That shared post is no longer in my feed, even after dragging to refresh 3 or 4 times, each time showing completely different content, mostly stuff from previous days that I had already seen (but I still have to scroll for ages to check because what was on top might be down lower now). In the end I had to go to his fb page and check manually, because the algorithm that decided that post was important immediately changed its mind on my behalf.

PS: the comment now appears on some refreshes and not others.

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