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Re: How Wired Is Going to Handle Ad Blocking

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Post by tokenadult »

hammock wrote: post #67
tokenadult wrote: post #23

Forbes has been doing this for a while on its website. (Or, at least for a while it has been detecting the ad blocking-software that I have been using for much longer.) I have basically stopped reading Forbes (which maybe was a good idea on other grounds) and have learned to appreciate stories from competing publications. If Wired doesn't want my eyeballs to visit its site, I'll just stop bringing them there.

What adblocker are you using? I've tried a couple and have had no issues viewing Forbes. Just have to click past the "quote of the day"

Ad Block Plus is my main ad blocker, but I had better check to see if the conflict is with another Chrome add-on.

Re: How Wired Is Going to Handle Ad Blocking

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Post by jayarcanum »

It's funny to see amongst all the stock market rout how companies that are (now) subservient to the markets have to react to a down market caused by other bullshit than journalism. The lesson here is Wired, stay true, don't fucking sell to Conde Nast and remain TRULY independent like real journalists should so you don't have to fucking suck dick for money when the big old bullshit tech bubble starts to burst.

Re: How Wired Is Going to Handle Ad Blocking

#93

Post by DannyBee »

rosser wrote: post #66
aaron695 wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your comment doesn't make any sense? Don't view ads. Wired doesn't care about you. You contribute nothing back anyway. So by making it a little harder, at least some of those people with morals will be pushed in the right direction to pay or white list ads for free content.

people with morals Nice. You might take a moment to consider that some of us who block ads are more concerned about the morality (read: more or less utter lack thereof) of the a̶d̶v̶e̶r̶t̶i̶s̶e̶r̶s̶ trackers than we are the revenue some arbitrary site may or may not lose from missing our impressions before you start casting stones wildly about like that. I'd probably be very willing to consider whitelisting sites who…

So, clearly, you instead just directly pay the authors/etc when you can, right? Or does that all conveniently fall by the wayside in your crusade?

Re: How Wired Is Going to Handle Ad Blocking

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Post by [deleted] »

vinceguidry wrote: post #80

Oh well, there goes another outlet. They can all do this, I don't care. Just won't read their content. Eventually there won't be any good non-paywalled content left, and I'll just figure something else out. They want my money, they're going to have to either pay off the mob (Adblock Plus) or get together with all the other news outlets and give me a one stop shop option. No way am I going to manage dozens of $1 a wee…

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Re: How Wired Is Going to Handle Ad Blocking

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Post by hackercomplex »

The model I would like to see involves micro-payments. I would be willing to "tip" say $0.10 or $0.15 here and there to instantly unlock certain articles. I think if this were easy to do then wired and other websites like it would make a lot more money over all from it's content.

The problem though is that with today's credit card infrastructure the processing fees make this sort of thing unrealistic, and the emerging alternative (blockchain tech) is not yet widely enough accepted by consumers to be useful in this regard.

I think we'll get there eventually, and a new "culture of tipping" on the web may flourish in a way that is very healthy for the journalistic community as a whole. It could also mean that for instance a poor person in a remote part of the world could record a youtube video of some traditional folk art or dance and then upload it to multiple social platforms and receive material amounts of money from random visitors within the first few hours without first needing to "strike a deal with youtube" or anything like that.

This might reorient village life in some areas away from making trinkets to sell to western tourists and instead towards making traditional creative art to share with a global audience. This could in theory help counteract the "westernization effect" that global cultures have been experiencing.

Re: How Wired Is Going to Handle Ad Blocking

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Post by orionblastar »

vinceguidry wrote: post #80

Oh well, there goes another outlet. They can all do this, I don't care. Just won't read their content. Eventually there won't be any good non-paywalled content left, and I'll just figure something else out. They want my money, they're going to have to either pay off the mob (Adblock Plus) or get together with all the other news outlets and give me a one stop shop option. No way am I going to manage dozens of $1 a wee…

Not only that but every site that has your payment information could be hacked and someone steals it along with your password, email, and other information.

I like reading sites that don't require a login unless you want to leave a comment. My account was hacked at the Harvard Business Review and I used to leave comments there. They redid their website and limit what you can read now.

Sorry to say websites are moving towards a subscription model and I don't read every article on a website to make it worth the money. Just articles I have an interest in reading. I don't mind ads as long as they aren't annoying. As long as they don't take up a lot of the screen or pop up windows or a new browsing window or pop up a notice to enter my email to subscribe to their newsletter. I want to just read an article with no annoying stuff. Clickbait articles that take up several pages turn me off. Video ads that autoplay turn me off. That is why I installed an ad blocker to get rid of annoying things. I don't mind non annoying ads like Adwords or the typical banner ad.

Re: How Wired Is Going to Handle Ad Blocking

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Post by quotemstr »

I use Google Contributor [1], which _effectively_ functions as an ad blocker, one that compensates website owners for the ads they're not displaying.

A different, but equivalent, way of looking at the product is that Google Contributor lets me essentially enter a op ad in the advertising auction for any web page I visit; if my bid wins, I see a placeholder instead of the ad. One nice side effect of this scheme is that the ads that do make it through are generally of high quality, since they're the ones for which some advertiser managed to outbid me.

[1] https://www.google.com/contributor/welcome/

Re: How Wired Is Going to Handle Ad Blocking

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Post by look_lookatme »

jayarcanum wrote: post #92

It's funny to see amongst all the stock market rout how companies that are (now) subservient to the markets have to react to a down market caused by other bullshit than journalism. The lesson here is Wired, stay true, don't fucking sell to Conde Nast and remain TRULY independent like real journalists should so you don't have to fucking suck dick for money when the big old bullshit tech bubble starts to burst.

Who in publishing is surviving as an true independent with even 1/5th of this staff? http://www.wired.com/wired-staff

Re: How Wired Is Going to Handle Ad Blocking

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Post by rosser »

DannyBee wrote: post #93
rosser wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

people with morals Nice. You might take a moment to consider that some of us who block ads are more concerned about the morality (read: more or less utter lack thereof) of the a̶d̶v̶e̶r̶t̶i̶s̶e̶r̶s̶ trackers than we are the revenue some arbitrary site may or may not lose from missing our impressions before you start casting stones wildly about like that. I'd probably be very willing to consider whitelisting sites who…

So, clearly, you instead just directly pay the authors/etc when you can, right? Or does that all conveniently fall by the wayside in your crusade?

When they give me a way to, yes, I actually do. I pay for recurrent subscriptions, plural, to sites that offer and warrant it. At least one of them has been running for a decade or more.

Regardless, calling it a "crusade" is the same kind of argument-poisoning that the GP uses with his "people with morals" quip. If you can't have a discussion without resorting to that kind of rhetoric — term used very damned loosely — then, personally, I don't think you've got much of a point.

Re: How Wired Is Going to Handle Ad Blocking

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Post by executesorder66 »

funkysquid wrote: post #69

I don't use an ad blocker, but I'm thinking of installing one just for wired, if only to see how they implement this. And because I don't support hiding content from people who don't want to pay with their eyeballs and privacy, or maybe can't pay with money.

> if only to see how they implement this.

I use uBlock Origin. I went onto Wired to see how it worked. I must have viewed about 2 dozen articles, with no side effects. Either they haven't activated this yet, or it doesn't work.

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